Streaming Cycling in UK - Discovery+ prices!

[Regular.Cyclist]

And yet, https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/terms-of-service still includes "You must also agree that you and any other user that you have provided access to will not engage in any of the following activities: [...] Uploading, possessing, receiving, transporting, or distributing any copyrighted, trademark, or patented content which you do not own or lack written consent or a license from the content owner" so are you sure that's not just talking about things like accessing your home Paramount+ shows while travelling abroad?

Like I wrote earlier, it's not in their financial interest to dispel user misconceptions too quickly.

Am I sure? No, I haven’t asked them for clarity as I have no need to. PIA is one I trialled a couple of years ago but it was pretty rubbish for streaming anyway. I was simply showing that VPN companies openly imply that it’s ok whilst still putting seeminly contradictory statements in their terms of use.

 

[mjr]

I always enjoy people telling me that something I've done is impossible. 😂 I'm signed up to both SBS and BBC News.

Signed up to is not the same as subscribed = paid a subscription to. 🤣🤣🤣

 

[Pblakeney]

Signed up to is not the same as subscribed = paid a subscription to. 🤣🤣🤣

No, it's free. Even better!
I'm sure you have a point but my life will go on without knowing it.

 

[Alex321]

Signed up to is not the same as subscribed = paid a subscription to. 🤣🤣🤣

Subscribed no longer means "paid a subscription to", and hasn't for a while.

Sites will ask you to "subscribed to our mailing list" - with each email having an "unsubscribe" link at the bottom. And I am "subscribed" to a numb er of Youtube channels, all for free.

 

[TakeTheHighRoad]

One could make a philosophical argument that you "pay" for SBS by providing your email address, and the associated data contained therewithin.

But as pblakeney says, it's not something I'm going to get too worked up about. There are various methods for watching cycling, and the last method I will take is paying TNT £31 a month

 

[mjr]

Subscribed no longer means "paid a subscription to", and hasn't for a while.

Sites will ask you to "subscribed to our mailing list" -

That's as maybe, but subscribing to a TV service still generally means paying and I think it's pretty clear the VPN providers mean that.

Anyway, people can justify ripping off Australians or whoever how they like. Still ain't legal or risk-free and it would be much better for cycling if they pushed back at the organisers (let them know the WBD monopoly stinks) than resorted to lawbreaking and "I'm alright".

 

[Blazing Saddles]

That's as maybe, but subscribing to a TV service still generally means paying and I think it's pretty clear the VPN providers mean that.

Anyway, people can justify ripping off Australians or whoever how they like. Still ain't legal or risk-free and it would be much better for cycling if they pushed back at the organisers (let them know the WBD monopoly stinks) than resorted to lawbreaking and "I'm alright".

Let’s face it, we wouldn’t be having this debate if we all still had access Eurosport. Most of us had paid that subscription for years.
It’s become a different ball game for those in the UK, as opposed to the rest of Europe. A 500 Euros a year different ball game to be precise.
Ironic therefore that you choose the term ripping off in this context.

 

[mjr]

Let’s face it, we wouldn’t be having this debate if we all still had access Eurosport. Most of us had paid that subscription for years.

Yes, but that was your choice. Eurosport 1 was and still is broadcast free to air by satellite to the UK, although they stopped English commentary soon after Sky Digital launched with the paid "British Eurosport" channel. It's only the final version of that which shut down recently.

 

[Dan Lotus]

It feels like this thread has gone a LONG way off topic, if it is required, can the correct/incorrect use of vpn's move to a dedicated thread perhaps?
Is there a techie/IT part of the forum where it could have a natural home?

 

[mjr]

It feels like this thread has gone a LONG way off topic, if it is required, can the correct/incorrect use of vpn's move to a dedicated thread perhaps?

How is it off-topic? Can we really discuss streaming cycling coverage to the UK now without fools suggesting that using a VPN to circumvent restrictions of foreign public broadcasters is totally legal (sometime by appealing to youtube creators and magazine writers who are not great sources of legal advice) and risk-free?

 

[Blazing Saddles]

Yes, but that was your choice. Eurosport 1 was and still is broadcast free to air by satellite to the UK, although they stopped English commentary soon after Sky Digital launched with the paid "British Eurosport" channel. It's only the final version of that which shut down recently.

What satellite?

I have had a motorised system for over 20 years and never knew that Eurosport 1 was FTA in the UK.
The only FTA Eurosport as far as I knew was German.
Eurosport International in English used to be available on the old analogue system.

I can’t find any current reference to Eurosport being available in the UK.

 

[Dan Lotus]

Because the people who are doing this are adults, and understand the risks involved.
I don't see why we need to keep going over the same ground page after page - what is it achieving?

 

[Blazing Saddles]

How is it off-topic? Can we really discuss streaming cycling coverage to the UK now without fools suggesting that using a VPN to circumvent restrictions of foreign public broadcasters is totally legal (sometime by appealing to youtube creators and magazine writers who are not great sources of legal advice) and risk-free?

To be fair I haven’t read anyone suggesting this, never mind the fools of which you speak.

 

[mjr]

Because I think the people who are doing this are adults, and understands the risks involved.
I don't see why we need to keep going over the same ground page after page - what is it achieving?

I don't know what it achieves, but I guess I'm just trying to make any fan doing this aware what they are gambling with and not let them be misled by the suggestions that blithely say or imply that it's totally legal.

If people understood the risks, then why do they keep posting stuff like VPN providers encourage people using them to circumvent restrictions, when most VPN terms of contract say the direct opposite and let them boot users off and keep their money if there's complaints? It's like most of the people doing this weren't online when Napster users were getting disconnected and occasionally prosecuted by copyright holders(!) 😉 Or Pirate Bay. Or any of the other waves of enforcement.

 

[mjr]

To be fair I haven’t read anyone suggesting this, never mind the fools of which you speak.

I looked back earlier in this discussion and the one in the main TV coverage topic and it seems that most of those posts have been removed, along with most of the "firestick" ones, probably for similar reasons to https://www.cyclechat.net/threads/made-it-over-another-br-refugee.301776/post-7374712