Static caravan purchase ?

[fossyant]

My information is that sites with 'only' a holiday licence are selling caravans & lodges as residential ! Some councils are ignoring this breach of regulations because enforcement of the rules will result in people needing rehoming and councils do not have the accommodation available.
Don't get me started on the lack of social housing and the sale of council housing stock years ago.

You can see why people buy holiday homes, and not tin boxes in a field. I was dead against a second home (we are in the position we could have afforded one as our mortgage is paid off) due to the impact on the local housing economy, hence keeping the van at the time. I also didn't want the extra maintenance to do also, and it was enough with a static (gardening, repairs etc).

Quite nice now just rolling up at a hotel or camp site and unpacking with no 'chores' to do.

 

[raleighnut]

My information is that sites with 'only' a holiday licence are selling caravans & lodges as residential ! Some councils are ignoring this breach of regulations because enforcement of the rules will result in people needing rehoming and councils do not have the accommodation available.
Don't get me started on the lack of social housing and the sale of council housing stock years ago.

Nothing wrong with selling off the Council Houses, what was wrong was the government at the time (guess who) preventing the Councils from using the monies to build new housing insisting instead that they kept the money as 'Reserves' leading to the Icelandic Banking Crash taking all the money.

 

[kingrollo]

Well I've bucked the trend and brought a static !

Yes I'm aware of all the horror stories - but it's in a part of the UK where I love some good cycling as well.

A couple of things:-

This is an investment in my well being. In now way shape size or form is it an investment in money terms

It's all paid for - it's a used one - but in good nick ...the price I paid is only what some people would pay for a car. I view it as the money paid, has gone - I know it will have nominal if any resale value by the time it becomes to old to be on the park

Rates are affordable - and the park is very basic.

For what I've paid I could have numerous UK or overseas holidays - but it's not an investment - it's just something I always wanted to do ...

A major health scare earlier in the year & Mrs KR not well ..it ticks a lot of boxes.

 

[Scaleyback]

Well I've bucked the trend and brought a static !

Yes I'm aware of all the horror stories - but it's in a part of the UK where I love some good cycling as well.

A couple of things:-

This is an investment in my well being. In now way shape size or form is it an investment in money terms

It's all paid for - it's a used one - but in good nick ...the price I paid is only what some people would pay for a car. I view it as the money paid, has gone - I know it will have nominal if any resale value by the time it becomes to old to be on the park

Rates are affordable - and the park is very basic.

For what I've paid I could have numerous UK or overseas holidays - but it's not an investment - it's just something I always wanted to do ...

A major health scare earlier in the year & Mrs KR not well ..it ticks a lot of boxes.

I sincerely wish you well kingrollo, long may you enjoy your holiday home.

 

[T4tomo]

I know it will have nominal if any resale value by the time it becomes to old to be on the park

just make sure you don't get charged a fortune for removal fees at the end of its life though....

 

[fossyant]

just make sure you don't get charged a fortune for removal fees at the end of its life though....

Shouldn't do. Cost us £500. Sold it to a Polish dealer and site deducted the disconnection. Someone in Poland has a nice holiday home now.

 

[Scaleyback]

Another ' snippit ' from the HPAG (Holiday Park Action Group )
This references the take over of a Holiday park by the Hill Bros (usually very bad news)
They have issued a new annual licence and I include a few lines from this licence. (Join the group to read the full statement from HPAG.

 

[Beebo]

Another ' snippit ' from the HPAG (Holiday Park Action Group )
This references the take over of a Holiday park by the Hill Bros (usually very bad news)
They have issued a new annual licence and I include a few lines from this licence. (Join the group to read the full statement from HPAG.

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How many people bother to read the small print.
i know i dont read every line.
So that will catch a lot of people out.

 

[Scaleyback]

How many people bother to read the small print.
i know i dont read every line.
So that will catch a lot of people out.

The rest of that HPAG article goes on to point out that this contravenes consumer protection law. They also point out that licences signed under previous owners are legally binding and cannot be changed at the new owners discretion. Many ( most ) new owners attempt to void existing licence agreements and issue new ones.

 

[BrumJim]

The rest of that HPAG article goes on to point out that this contravenes consumer protection law. They also point out that licences signed under previous owners are legally binding and cannot be changed at the new owners discretion. Many ( most ) new owners attempt to void existing licence agreements and issue new ones.

Kind of get the idea that the Hill Brothers don't really care about laws in general, and the consumer protection law in particular.

 

[Scaleyback]

Kind of get the idea that the Hill Brothers don't really care about laws in general, and the consumer protection law in particular.

Many of these owners have the same approach, the Hill Bros have acquired a reputation worst than most. " laws in general, and the consumer protection law in particular " are often run ' roughshod ' over. With no protection in law or enforceable codes of practice, many ( too many ) buyers are like lambs to the slaughter. Naive owners who cannot countenance a salesman telling them a pack of lies are sadly learning the hard way. I have no connection to HPAG ( apart from being a member ) however they are doing great work supporting owners with proper legal advice and bringing this toxic industry to mainstream attention.

 

[Gunk]

Another ' snippit ' from the HPAG (Holiday Park Action Group )
This references the take over of a Holiday park by the Hill Bros (usually very bad news)
They have issued a new annual licence and I include a few lines from this licence. (Join the group to read the full statement from HPAG.

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That clause is probably so unreasonable it could mean that the contract is deemed unfair and therefore not valid

 

[Emanresu]

That clause is probably so unreasonable it could mean that the contract is deemed unfair and therefore not valid

Sorry. Contract law has been around since the times that Noah purchased his floating caravan from an honest salesman.

"Blue Pencil" would apply here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_pencil_doctrine

 

[Beebo]

A group legal challenge is about to begin.
It will look at the annual site fees. And the terms of sale / buy back.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gmy7xjewko

 

[fossyant]

A group legal challenge is about to begin.
It will look at the annual site fees. And the terms of sale / buy back.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gmy7xjewko

Beat me to it. Good luck to them.

Well our site has so far lost £8k from us in ground fees, and I'm about to spend £30k or so on a people carrier 'van' and kit it for occasional overnights/bike carrying and of course, transporting all the camping kit.