Southeastern high speed trains - cycle storage?

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TheDoctor

Noble and true, with a heart of steel
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Mornings!!
I'm getting a train from St Pancras to Dover soon, and taking a bike. Is there a dedicated cycle storage area, and if so, whereabouts on the train is it?
Taking a non-folding bike, well outside of peak times.
Cheers!!
 

smutchin

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No dedicated cycle storage but each six-car unit has a large wheelchair space in the end coach that you can use for bikes, as long as the train isn't too busy (it's pot luck which end of the train it will be).

It's really a piss poor service - the onboard "train managers" are generally pretty good, but the jobsworths at St Pancras seem very hostile to bikes on their precious trains. I was once threatened with an £80 fine by a pillock in a peaked cap for daring to arrive in London with my bike before 10am on a train that was less than half full (for the whole journey, I was the only person sitting in the coach I travelled in).

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TheDoctor

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Cheers for that. I'll have a reasonable amount of time to sort the bike out, it just helps to know where I'm aiming for, so to speak. If the trains are as empty as all that, I might just ride up and down the train en route. :biggrin:
 

smutchin

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Ha! You might find the aisles a tad on the narrow side, and the electric doors between coaches would be a hindrance too. Maybe a unicycle would be better for that?

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thefollen

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Reckon it'd be well cool if there was a platformnnnn area on the front of the train where you slotted you bike. Then you could sit, pedal and pretend you were cycling at the train's speed. You could even cut out buffet prices by dining on a fly or ten.
 

Manifietso

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It's really a piss poor service - the onboard "train managers" are generally pretty good, but the jobsworths at St Pancras seem very hostile to bikes on their precious trains. I was once threatened with an £80 fine by a pillock in a peaked cap for daring to arrive in London with my bike before 10am on a train that was less than half full (for the whole journey, I was the only person sitting in the coach I travelled in).

High speed trains in general are not always all that tolerant of bikes. It seems that trains are good when they are in the middle - semi fast, regional or local and you are fine, high speed or undergound and you might experience problems.

I was thinking of taking my bike to continent in summer, and afaik Eurostar will take it 24 hours later as it does on a van, not on their trains. I thought the TGVs were also quite restricted, but I saw bike space (unused) on the TGV I took from Lille to Paris in March. I was going to draw up a list - Thalys, FYRA, AVE, ICE, ICN and so on - has anyone already done this?

Also, we should be asking as cyclists what provisions are going to be made for us with hs2. Maybe that's for another thread, but consider:

1) Will the trains take our bikes?
2) Will there be adequate parking at stations. Remember New St has 26 spaces at present!
3) Will there be a network of paths around the stations - especially Birmingham "parkway"
4) What about the existing greenway that is going to be severed?
 

Manifietso

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Sorry Smutchin but I am going to have to. How can so much investment get poured into those stations, without providing suitable parking for bikes? And likewise - if the roads are being upgraded, they should be thinking about us too. (OK, I'll put my red rag away now)
 
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