Yes because there's only 3 or 4 of those on the whole internet and they're really hard to find....
Social Media - where do our responsibilities end?
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slowmotion
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Very good points @John the Monkey. It could be argued that the vilification on social media provides a useful way of drawing attention to the weaknesses of car culture and the law. Sadly, it probably reinforces some peoples' prejudices against cyclists as well. ( I don't feel strong enough to venture into the comments section of The Daily Mail). We can't win.
raleighnut
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I think the guy delayed posting the video until after the court case so as not to 'prejudice' the outcome.
Now 'justice' has been done we all get to see the dickhead in action.
Now 'justice' has been done we all get to see the dickhead in action.
I see that argument. It's there for sure. I think there are probably more effective and targeted ways of making the case, ones that might be less likely to result in 'us and them' arguments, but I nonetheless think the cause to be worthwhile enough to wage it on several fronts!
martint235
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jonny jeez
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I've not read the entire thread as I don't have time, so sorry if I repeat something
However, my view I that we have no responsibility beyond that of understanding that what I enter into the media is at my risk.
I always run a measure before putting anything on line which is, would I be happy for my kids...or a client...to see it.
That way, if I ever do anything daft and the internet turns on me, i shall have no skeletons in my closet worth worrying about.
That includes personal contact details (even my strava profile has privacy settings and I dropped Garmin and ride with Gps as they didn't offer the same).
So, no winkle selfies and no home details.
Work details are harder to filter, with the rise of linked in but the same sanity check applies there.
If you out it up, expect people to see it...forever
However, my view I that we have no responsibility beyond that of understanding that what I enter into the media is at my risk.
I always run a measure before putting anything on line which is, would I be happy for my kids...or a client...to see it.
That way, if I ever do anything daft and the internet turns on me, i shall have no skeletons in my closet worth worrying about.
That includes personal contact details (even my strava profile has privacy settings and I dropped Garmin and ride with Gps as they didn't offer the same).
So, no winkle selfies and no home details.
Work details are harder to filter, with the rise of linked in but the same sanity check applies there.
If you out it up, expect people to see it...forever
martint235
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I don't think that's the point at issue Jonny. No disrespect but this seems more to be about the responsibility borne by people who join virtual lynch mobs to perhaps drive someone out of business or to cost them their jobs.
Now if the guy had just done a close pass, I'd have thought nothing of it. However this guy didn't do that and I therefore think that a measure of internet lynching is perhaps appropriate. There must be feeling out there as it's very difficult to organise a one person lynch mob. It's up to the person what level they take it to.
jonny jeez
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Sure. I do get that.
My point was that I have no responsibility, or perhaps duty of care, towards those being lynched on the internet. The responsibility is theirs to ensure they don't leave a trail of lynchable info in the first place, to stoke the flames in the event of a lynching
Take our little fella in the discovery...having an identifiable work address as well as selfies of his knob shows a lack of media responsibility, that sh1t was gonna come down one way or another...the cycle vid was just a catalyst.
I do think people need to understand the power if negative media and jump into line pretty sharpish to correct the issue.
So, he deserves all the internet can dump on him.
Moral...dont be a knob and if you are, then don't be surprised if your online history comes back and bites you on the winkle
martint235
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Ah I see. Apologies.
glenn forger
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Once again. There is no lynch mob. Nobody is getting lynched. Do you know what lynched means?
martint235
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Er yeah. To punish a person without legal authority. Especially (although not always) used when the punishment is hanging. Next
AndyWilliams
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He didn't though did he! He was trying to squeeze past, made a mistake with his driving that day. Into is different!!!
I really don't see all this as a big deal. 2 men argue over road space. Yawn. If he actually drove into him and knocked him off....different story.
Mistake?
AndyWilliams
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Yeah, we all make them. He was frustrated and wanted past. He made the mistake of trying to squeeze past a cyclist.
