So Many Fat Young Kids around !!!

[Cuchilo]

"When you are underfed, harassed, bored, and miserable, you don’t want to eat dull wholesome food. You want something a little bit ‘tasty’. There is always some cheaply pleasant thing to tempt you. Let’s have three pennorth of chips! Run out and buy us a twopenny ice-cream! Put the kettle on and we’ll all have a nice cup of tea!"
George Orwell.

George didn't live in London where a portion of chips is now £1:70

 

[User482]

George didn't live in London where a portion of chips is now £1:70

The point he was making is pretty obvious.

 

[classic33]

[QUOTE 4190470, member: 259"]The big problem with them is that they're impossible to open. They just sit there on the shelf, gloating at you.[/QUOTE]
Or place one(unopened) in an industrial powder coating oven, copying everyone else, and wonder why it exploded..
'87-88 they used to cost £1.55 at the local Asda. Had two at dinnertime, until someone didn't open theirs before placing it in the oven.

 

[Cuchilo]

The point he was making is pretty obvious.

I agree but he was making that point when you had to walk outside to go to the toilet and getting an oven hot probably took half a day . A tasty treat wasn't available for him to cook fresh from the local shop but it is now .
I wonder what his view on todays " tasty treats " would be ?

 

[MarkF]

I could feed four adults for £10 if i cooked the meal .

I could too. But I am informed, healthy, happy and with no money issues, and I live in a good area with a plethora of choices for food shopping. Where I work, a densely populated & deprived inner city area, there are just fast food outlets and a Morrison's a mile away. I also don't have 4 kids screaming for a kebab/burger/pizza chips and pop. You cannot "educate" these people, they already know.

 

[MarkF]

On the the hand, I work with many young educated professionals, they also us the same places to eat, and unsurprisingly an alarming (to me) % of them are also very fat too. I am 53 and have never worked with fat people (or smokers) until I started working in the public service in an inner city area.

 

[classic33]

I agree but he was making that point when you had to walk outside to go to the toilet and getting an oven hot probably took half a day . A tasty treat wasn't available for him to cook fresh from the local shop but it is now .
I wonder what his view on todays " tasty treats " would be ?

Got this one, from The Road to Wigan Pier:

The miner’s family spend only ten pence a week on green vegetables and ten pence half-penny on milk (remember that one of them is a child less than three years old), and nothing on fruit; but they spend one and nine on sugar (about eight pounds of sugar, that is) and a shilling on tea. The half-crown spent on meat might represent a small joint and the materials for a stew; probably as often as not it would represent four or five tins of bully beef. The basis of their diet, therefore, is white bread and margarine, corned beef, sugared tea, and potatoes – an appalling diet. Would it not be better if they spent more money on wholesome things like oranges and wholemeal bread or if they even, like the writer of the letter to the New Statesman, saved on fuel and ate their carrots raw? Yes, it would, but the point is that no ordinary human being is ever going to do such a thing. The ordinary human being would sooner starve than live on brown bread and raw carrots. And the peculiar evil is this, that the less money you have, the less inclined you feel to spend it on wholesome food. A millionaire may enjoy breakfasting off orange juice and Ryvita biscuits; an unemployed man doesn’t. […] When you are unemployed, which is to say when you are underfed, harassed, bored, and miserable, you don’t want to eat dull wholesome food. You want something a little bit ‘tasty’. There is always some cheaply pleasant thing to tempt you. Let’s have three pen north of chips Run out and buy us a twopenny ice-cream! Put the kettle on and we’ll have a nice cup of tea. That is how your mind works when you are at the P.A.C level. White bread-and-marg and sugared tea don’t nourish you to any extent but they are nicer (at least most people think so) than brown bread-and-dripping and cold water. Unemployment is an endless misery that has got to be constantly palliated, and especially with tea, the English-man’s opium. A cup of tea or even an aspirin is much better as a temporary stimulant than a crust of brown bread.

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2013/08/george-orwells-lesson-for-jamie-oliver/

 

[Stephenite]

Got this one, from The Road to Wigan Pier:

The miner’s family spend only ten pence a week on green vegetables and ten pence half-penny on milk (remember that one of them is a child less than three years old), and nothing on fruit; but they spend one and nine on sugar (about eight pounds of sugar, that is) and a shilling on tea. The half-crown spent on meat might represent a small joint and the materials for a stew; probably as often as not it would represent four or five tins of bully beef. The basis of their diet, therefore, is white bread and margarine, corned beef, sugared tea, and potatoes – an appalling diet. Would it not be better if they spent more money on wholesome things like oranges and wholemeal bread or if they even, like the writer of the letter to the New Statesman, saved on fuel and ate their carrots raw? Yes, it would, but the point is that no ordinary human being is ever going to do such a thing. The ordinary human being would sooner starve than live on brown bread and raw carrots. And the peculiar evil is this, that the less money you have, the less inclined you feel to spend it on wholesome food. A millionaire may enjoy breakfasting off orange juice and Ryvita biscuits; an unemployed man doesn’t. […] When you are unemployed, which is to say when you are underfed, harassed, bored, and miserable, you don’t want to eat dull wholesome food. You want something a little bit ‘tasty’. There is always some cheaply pleasant thing to tempt you. Let’s have three pen north of chips Run out and buy us a twopenny ice-cream! Put the kettle on and we’ll have a nice cup of tea. That is how your mind works when you are at the P.A.C level. White bread-and-marg and sugared tea don’t nourish you to any extent but they are nicer (at least most people think so) than brown bread-and-dripping and cold water. Unemployment is an endless misery that has got to be constantly palliated, and especially with tea, the English-man’s opium. A cup of tea or even an aspirin is much better as a temporary stimulant than a crust of brown bread.

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2013/08/george-orwells-lesson-for-jamie-oliver/

Tea and two slices!? Food of the spiritually impoverished. It isn't money dictating the diet.

 

[screenman]

So why are so many rural kids around Lincolnshire obese, when there may not be a fast food outlet for many miles?

 

[Turdus philomelos]

Wheat! Sugar! Lack of Essential Fatty Acids. Sitting still for far too long. Parents to busy working to meet mortgage/loan/credit card payments to cook proper food (unrefined).
Only my personal observation of around 800 young people daily.

 

[screenman]

I remember when we were poor we could not afford to go for a Wimpy or fish and chips, how times have changed.

 

[threebikesmcginty]

[QUOTE 4191115, member: 259"]Haslet.[/QUOTE]

We used to get that from the butcher in Goxhill, marvellous stuff. It's closed down now, so has the butchers...

 

[TVC]

Mmmmmm haslet

 

[John the Monkey]

Glad to see so many other Haslet fans on the thread. Lovely stuff.

 

[John the Monkey]

The Human body, and all of its systems, are geared towards hunter gathering. The availability of food, and the calorific content, are so good now, unless kids are kept active, they are going to end up as obese, type 2 diabetes ridden Jabba the hut tribute acts.

A recent study in The Lancet looked for signs of atherosclerosis—arteries clogged with cholesterol and fats—in more than one hundred ancient mummies from societies of farmers, foragers and hunter–gatherers around the world, including Egypt, Peru, the southwestern U.S and the Aleutian Islands. "A common assumption is that atherosclerosis is predominately lifestyle-related, and that if modern human beings could emulate preindustrial or even preagricultural lifestyles, that atherosclerosis, or least its clinical manifestations, would be avoided," the researchers wrote. But they found evidence of probable or definite atherosclerosis in 47 of 137 mummies from each of the different geographical regions.
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We cannot time travel and join our Paleo ancestors by the campfire as they prepare to eat; likewise, shards of ancient pottery and fossilized teeth can tell us only so much. If we compare the diets of so-called modern hunter-gatherers, however, we see just how difficult it is to find meaningful commonalities and extract useful dietary guidelines from their disparate lives (see infographic). Which hunter–gatherer tribe are we supposed to mimic, exactly? How do we reconcile the Inuit diet—mostly the flesh of sea mammals—with the more varied plant and land animal diet of the Hadza or !Kung?

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-paleo-diet-half-baked-how-hunter-gatherer-really-eat/