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HLaB

HLaB

Marie Attoinette Fan
Location
That little part of Scotland known as Peterborough
Pedrosanchezo said:
I noticed a couple of KOM's i had disappeared so checked to see what happened and it turns out someone, dating back to June 2010, took them. Really odd as i have had the segments for several months. Didn't get a notification of losing the KOM's.
I assume it was maybe something like an old upload from an imported gps file??
That leads me to think that you only get a notification if the KOM was stolen after the original KOM date. Any old imports will go unnoticed.
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It must be in folks settings I've lost a couple of KOM's and never been notified either but these were beaten after the original KOM date. Subsequently a 2009 time has appeared but PS had beaten it before then. :wacko:
 
Pedrosanchezo

Pedrosanchezo

Veteran
Location
Perthshire, scotland
HLaB said:
It must be in folks settings I've lost a couple of KOM's and never been notified either but these were beaten after the original KOM date. Subsequently a 2009 time has appeared but PS had beaten it before then. :wacko:
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I know in your own settings you can turn of notifications so when someone steals the KOM you don't get that annoying email. It just makes you want to go out and get it back. :laugh:
I just found it odd that i took the KOM's months ago and then this guys appears, with rides from 2010, and boom i am in second!
Must be someone uploading old rides.
 
HLaB

HLaB

Marie Attoinette Fan
Location
That little part of Scotland known as Peterborough
Pedrosanchezo said:
I know in your own settings you can turn of notifications so when someone steals the KOM you don't get that annoying email. It just makes you want to go out and get it back. :laugh:
I just found it odd that i took the KOM's months ago and then this guys appears, with rides from 2010, and boom i am in second!
Must be someone uploading old rides.
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Paul has bumped me down to 2nd recently on that segment (I'm now equal 3rd) and I have notices of folk beating my older KOM's with a ride uploaded from 5 years ago :wacko: I really must switch off notifications myself, I can't be bothered travelling 500 miles to take back a KOM I set in the Trossachs ;)
 
Pedrosanchezo

Pedrosanchezo

Veteran
Location
Perthshire, scotland
HLaB said:
Paul has bumped me down to 2nd recently on that segment (I'm now equal 3rd) and I have notices of folk beating my older KOM's with a ride uploaded from 5 years ago :wacko: I really must switch off notifications myself, I can't be bothered travelling 500 miles to take back a KOM I set in the Trossachs ;)
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Haha, now that would be commitment. Or maybe addiction. :wacko:
I don't mind being beat in the present but to be beaten by someone over two years ago is slightly annoying. I am sure it is legit but something irks me about it.
 
ohnovino

ohnovino

Large Member
Location
Liverpool
Pedrosanchezo said:
Veloviewer any good?
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I now think of it more as "Silly Veloviewer Racing", and Strava is just the annoying middle-man.
 
ohnovino

ohnovino

Large Member
Location
Liverpool
Pedrosanchezo said:
Pro's and cons chaps?? I only ask as i am wondering if i really need another site to tinker with.......:whistle:
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You get a list of all segments you've ever ridden, along with data on each one (position, no of riders who've tried it, gap from KOM, etc).

Pros:
  • You can see when you've dropped down the rankings (something Strava doesn't tell you unless you lose the KOM)
  • If someone sets up a new segment and it matches one of you're previous rides, Veloviewer will tell you (someone recently set up a new segment on a hill near me - thanks to Veloviewer I found out I was already in second place, and I took the KOM a few days later)
  • You can get a better idea of your performance through position percentiles (they take into account the number of riders on a segment, so 3rd out of 100 is better than 1st out of 5). That also helps to put the fun back into segments where the KOM is so quick that you'll never reach it.
  • You can get quick links to other third-party Strava sites that show the full history of a segment, or allow you to compare your efforts with someone else's to see where you're gaining/losing time
Cons:
  • You wake up every morning thinking "I need to update Veloviewer"
 
Pedrosanchezo

Pedrosanchezo

Veteran
Location
Perthshire, scotland
ohnovino said:
You get a list of all segments you've ever ridden, along with data on each one (position, no of riders who've tried it, gap from KOM, etc).

Pros:
  • You can see when you've dropped down the rankings (something Strava doesn't tell you unless you lose the KOM)
  • If someone sets up a new segment and it matches one of you're previous rides, Veloviewer will tell you (someone recently set up a new segment on a hill near me - thanks to Veloviewer I found out I was already in second place, and I took the KOM a few days later)
  • You can get a better idea of your performance through position percentiles (they take into account the number of riders on a segment, so 3rd out of 100 is better than 1st out of 5). That also helps to put the fun back into segments where the KOM is so quick that you'll never reach it.
  • You can get quick links to other third-party Strava sites that show the full history of a segment, or allow you to compare your efforts with someone else's to see where you're gaining/losing time
Cons:

  • You wake up every morning thinking "I need to update Veloviewer"
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All that does sound pretty good. What do you mean by "history of a segment"? Do you mean you can view everyones rides on each segment from day one or something more to do with the segment creation?
 
ohnovino

ohnovino

Large Member
Location
Liverpool
Pedrosanchezo said:
All that does sound pretty good. What do you mean by "history of a segment"? Do you mean you can view everyones rides on each segment from day one or something more to do with the segment creation?
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You can see every time that's ever been recorded on a segment. It's helps to show whether someone's fast time is a one-off, or whether they're consistently quick. I've been having a bit of a battle with someone on one segment, and I can see all their failed attempts to beat me!

You can also see all rides that have passed through a segment, which is a good way to find other routes in the same area, and you can set up email notifications for changes to any position in the top 10 (so not just the KOM notices you get from Strava).

This isn't actually done on VeloViewer, but a separate site that VV links to.
 
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