Show us your.......newbie progress! [4 Sep 2012 - 4 Oct 2014]

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When in the car hate cyclists, when on the bike hate drivers.
I try not to hate anyone, though some peoples actions make it a little difficult..
I've never got this cyclist v driver thing anyway. I have a car as well as a bike so when you hear people say "bloody cyclists, they don't even pay road tax!" it's a load of crap cos I do lol! Even before I got on the bike I've always been of the mindset that cyclists have just as much right to the road as much as I (as a driver) do. I guess it's the same in all walks of life, there's normal people and there's a**eholes. :laugh:
I personally don't at the moment, but the O.H. does on her car, nieces husband does, so that two lots in this household, I have driven or ridden most forms of transport, including flat bed wagons that needed to be roped and sheeted, no quick ratchet straps and curtainsider's. Most people are considerate even if you want to stereo type a driver the white van man, you get dicks in all forms of transports, what we have to do is understand what is going on around us (yea I get it wrong too) try and be understanding because mistakes happen, and shoot the arrogant ones.

Another thing about Road Tax, I believe (though may stand to be corrected) that most of the road tax goes to maintaining and improving major road/works and that local government funds a lot of the local roads (local B roads ect).
Just looked this up
"For trunk routes, Central Government pays 100% of their maintenance costs. For roads maintained by local authorities, Central Government will pay 50% of the costs for A-roads and 30% for B-roads, with the remaining cost of these (and the entire cost of unclassified roads) met by the local authority itself."
so as most cyclist wont be using trunk roads i.e. motorways or certain parts of the major A roads, one it's illegal, the others whilst in a lot of cases not illegal (A roads, unless prohibited at a local level ), extremely dangerous on some.
As for the rest A, B and unclassified are covered by local government, yes the cyclist does pay toward funding of those roads, through council tax, as these are the vast majority of roads cyclist ride on.
Next time someone says you dont pay road tax, just either explain this.
So the cyclist has every right to be on the road, (not cycle path) and to use that area around him/her to make progress in a safe manner, and if this includes closing down the road so you dont get squeezed than so be it.
 

s7ephanie

middle of nowhere in France
Yea - made it up a hill that has beaten me the last 3 times i tried it :dance: and rode apprrox 45 Km today my longest yet without a stop over !! the last hill got me though, just before home i had to walk up, so thats my next challenge. i should sleep well tonight:girldance:
 

Reece

Veteran
Location
Leicester
Yea - made it up a hill that has beaten me the last 3 times i tried it :dance: and rode apprrox 45 Km today my longest yet without a stop over !! the last hill got me though, just before home i had to walk up, so thats my next challenge. i should sleep well tonight:girldance:
Nice one!
 

MaxInc

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Location
Kent
I might actually enjoy this slow HR based training. I planned to do 1.5 hours in Zone 2 but 28km later I wanted some more but decided to stick to the plan :smile: Still using the MTB and pavements where possible at the moment until I get the hang of it but maybe next week I get the roadie out and see some speed comparison between the bikes at the same hart rate.

Really disappointed with my LBS, I have started the long and boring legal action process against them since it's been a month since they refused to replace my squeaky saddle under warranty. Latest development was the shop owner replacing the original Cannondale C3 seat post with a cheap non branded piece of garbage recovered probably from the back of their workshop all scratched and cut to size with a hacksaw, and had the nerve to argue that he had fixed the problem and used Cannondale parts :cursing: What a bunch ... Good thing I have two bikes :smile:
 

Reece

Veteran
Location
Leicester
Tried the Tuesday evening chaingang ride for the first time tonight. I knew I'd get dropped but I didn't realise how quick the pace would be. 2/3's of the loop done and got dropped, the others just carried on like it was nothing haha.

Definitely out again next week, I reckon if I keep at it, it will be a great way to get fitter and increase pace. I was nervous of the chaingang routine looping front to back etc but was quite easy, just need to learn to pace it a bit better.

Ride is out to the loop, 2 loops then home: http://app.strava.com/activities/59786517
 

Nomadski

I Like Bikes
Location
LBS, Usually
I try not to hate anyone, though some peoples actions make it a little difficult..

I personally don't at the moment, but the O.H. does on her car, nieces husband does, so that two lots in this household, I have driven or ridden most forms of transport, including flat bed wagons that needed to be roped and sheeted, no quick ratchet straps and curtainsider's. Most people are considerate even if you want to stereo type a driver the white van man, you get dicks in all forms of transports, what we have to do is understand what is going on around us (yea I get it wrong too) try and be understanding because mistakes happen, and shoot the arrogant ones.

Another thing about Road Tax, I believe (though may stand to be corrected) that most of the road tax goes to maintaining and improving major road/works and that local government funds a lot of the local roads (local B roads ect).
Just looked this up
"For trunk routes, Central Government pays 100% of their maintenance costs. For roads maintained by local authorities, Central Government will pay 50% of the costs for A-roads and 30% for B-roads, with the remaining cost of these (and the entire cost of unclassified roads) met by the local authority itself."
so as most cyclist wont be using trunk roads i.e. motorways or certain parts of the major A roads, one it's illegal, the others whilst in a lot of cases not illegal (A roads, unless prohibited at a local level ), extremely dangerous on some.
As for the rest A, B and unclassified are covered by local government, yes the cyclist does pay toward funding of those roads, through council tax, as these are the vast majority of roads cyclist ride on.
Next time someone says you dont pay road tax, just either explain this.
So the cyclist has every right to be on the road, (not cycle path) and to use that area around him/her to make progress in a safe manner, and if this includes closing down the road so you dont get squeezed than so be it.


Road Tax was abolished in 1937. Vehicle users pay Vehicle Excise Duty (VED) based on the emission category of their vehicle. This money goes straight to the treasury. The monies used for road maintenance, like everything paid for by local and national government, comes out of general taxation (council, VAT on goods etc etc) which we all pay.

I already pay for the roads I use, regardless of my driving a car anyway, and I would be delighted to pay VED on my cycle based on the same criteria as cars, in the end I would pay exactly the same as I pay now.

The Road Tax shout winds me up lol.
 

Mo1959

Legendary Member
Yes, makes it a bit tougher doesn't it. Rained pretty much constantly this morning and lots of standing water on the roads but no wind so far. Saturday is looking both wet and windy here so that may be a chance to take a day off. Mind you, the legs are feeling really tired just now so may not last till Saturday :ohmy:
 
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