welsh dragon
Thanks but no thanks. I think I'll pass.
That looks bliss. Not jealous at all sat at work
it is. And 2 cars only passed me. 4 people said hello as well. Not bad eh?
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it is. And 2 cars only passed me. 4 people said hello as well. Not bad eh?
Big_Dave
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@Nigelnaturist What have you got planned for the bike
, I've just this week bought 10 speed shifters for my old Raleigh Kellogg's Pro Tour, was going to do it next year as I won't be using it on wet salty roads (enter the tdf as a winter hack), It was 3x8 but having ridden the TDF on 10 speed, riding 8 speed seam't going back to the dark ages lol, I took the Raleigh out yesterday on a 40 miler fitted with the 3x10 fitted it was brilliant (borrowed the 11/32 cassette/chain off the TDF), 26 years old 501 steel and rides far better than the TDF and over a kilo lighter and knocked 8 minutes off my usual time at the 20 mile mark. I think I will fit a 12-27 to the raleigh as I can push harder gears on the hills now, the 28t 32t gears are my recovery gears but using the less and less, 25t is my new main climbing gear and occasionally 22t over the last few weeks.
, I've just this week bought 10 speed shifters for my old Raleigh Kellogg's Pro Tour, was going to do it next year as I won't be using it on wet salty roads (enter the tdf as a winter hack), It was 3x8 but having ridden the TDF on 10 speed, riding 8 speed seam't going back to the dark ages lol, I took the Raleigh out yesterday on a 40 miler fitted with the 3x10 fitted it was brilliant (borrowed the 11/32 cassette/chain off the TDF), 26 years old 501 steel and rides far better than the TDF and over a kilo lighter and knocked 8 minutes off my usual time at the 20 mile mark. I think I will fit a 12-27 to the raleigh as I can push harder gears on the hills now, the 28t 32t gears are my recovery gears but using the less and less, 25t is my new main climbing gear and occasionally 22t over the last few weeks.
Strava routes - anyone building them? Think you need premium to do that though? I've started building challenges I'd like to ride.. things to aim for.
Just done one route that is the beachfront in Aberavon to Mumbles Pier (ish) - it's a dead 30 miles there and back.
I love playing with that and coming up with challenges. Done some just around Port Talbot as well - 6/7 mile round the town.
Just done one route that is the beachfront in Aberavon to Mumbles Pier (ish) - it's a dead 30 miles there and back.
I love playing with that and coming up with challenges. Done some just around Port Talbot as well - 6/7 mile round the town.
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@Big_Dave thinking of a new chainset, 50/38/28 and possible a narrow cassette 12-25 instead of 12-27
current and possible change
As you can see I won't lose much on the top end, but it will give me a better cadence range on the middle as the 17th rear will act like an 18th on my current set up, still have the 17-19 jump, but I will be climbing at that point so not the same issue as on the flat into wind, and so much for inner rings being granny rings its actually slightly higher geared in that respect even though its a 28th opposed to 30th.
current and possible change
As you can see I won't lose much on the top end, but it will give me a better cadence range on the middle as the 17th rear will act like an 18th on my current set up, still have the 17-19 jump, but I will be climbing at that point so not the same issue as on the flat into wind, and so much for inner rings being granny rings its actually slightly higher geared in that respect even though its a 28th opposed to 30th.
Luked1980
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Not saying this is not the case, but be careful as steep sections can be misleading on strava even there are several seconds between plots, mainly those you may have seen that look like steps (especially if you know you haven't been climbing any), try exporting the ride as a gpx and load it into rwgps and correct the elevation, it will give you a better idea, but even that's not perfect just another tool to use. I have never been up anything more than about 15%, 27.3 is seriously steep more than a 1 in 4.
On the strava thing, after the 27.3 it has something that says 4th under "cat". What does that mean?
It also mentions a 453ft in 0.31 miles. Does that help?
Nigelnaturist
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A Cat4 its hows hills are measured in terms of difficulty, as steepness is not the sole measure, continues longer climbs at less sever angles can be as tough as short steep ones.
However watch out for some on strava as they can show false Categories, usually recorded with dodgy gps units like smart phones
Big_Dave
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On the subject of category climbs, I rode Holme Moss a couple of times earlier this year (with mtb gearing 
), Strava says its a cat3 climb, yet on the TDF it was classed as a cat 2 
. On the other hand I've ridden cat 4 climbs on strava that are only a few percent and short distance, and other cat4 climbs that have been like going up a mountain side for a couple of miles, I tend to treat strava cat climbs with a pinch of salt.
Edit @Nigelnaturist don't get me started on the strava phone apps lol
), Strava says its a cat3 climb, yet on the TDF it was classed as a cat 2 . On the other hand I've ridden cat 4 climbs on strava that are only a few percent and short distance, and other cat4 climbs that have been like going up a mountain side for a couple of miles, I tend to treat strava cat climbs with a pinch of salt.Edit @Nigelnaturist don't get me started on the strava phone apps lol
Stonechat
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Anyone can do routes on Strava - also on other sites like Ride With GPS
Stonechat
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Yes my best VAM is still showing as a dodgy Strava segment which is virtually flatA Cat4 its hows hills are measured in terms of difficulty, as steepness is not the sole measure, continues longer climbs at less sever angles can be as tough as short steep ones.
However watch out for some on strava as they can show false Categories, usually recorded with dodgy gps units like smart phones
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Got at least two around here. Though in fairness one is up an approach to the old A1 so a bit like a motorway slip road but still no cat4, anyway i re did the segments using the garmin 500 and much better profiles even though that did tend to give the steps approach, the 705 is much smoother.
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Sometimes on climbs like that there are many created segments, and its possible (though not as likely as it use to be) that you got caught in the catchment of one and not the other as Bob pointed out earlier due to the weather being overcast.On the subject of category climbs, I rode Holme Moss a couple of times earlier this year (with mtb gearing
Edit @Nigelnaturist don't get me started on the strava phone apps lol
morrisman
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Out for a brisk 16 miles today. Now I'm happy at my age/fitness/weight the I'm never going to hold any Strava KOMs but today I achieved my first FiMAGOM (Fastest in my Age Group of the Mountain) on the The Walton Sprint. 
http://www.strava.com/activities/195735205
http://www.strava.com/activities/195735205
Justinslow
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Well I found some energy from somewhere! 40 miles @17.3mph
https://www.strava.com/activities/195810368
Me and my bike felt great with a new shorter stem (90mm instead of 120mm). I took the afternoon off work which helped, so I wasn't knackered from work before I started. And I managed to get 2nd place and 1 second off the best time on a segment near home, at the end of the ride, so tantalisingly close to a KOM!
https://www.strava.com/activities/195810368
Me and my bike felt great with a new shorter stem (90mm instead of 120mm). I took the afternoon off work which helped, so I wasn't knackered from work before I started. And I managed to get 2nd place and 1 second off the best time on a segment near home, at the end of the ride, so tantalisingly close to a KOM!
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Managed 19.16 miles (30.8Km) @ a steady 15.8mph, not to bad to say I have been off two weeks with one of them almost bed ridden.
This is the ride well a course for most of the ride excluding the last couple of little loops.
For the segment course 11 strava gives 193ft but look deeper and it shows elev gain at 713ft which is close to what RWGPS corrected gives for the whole ride, so what is the 193ft its not max elev.
However in the main data section for the ride it gives 451ft
For those that gave me kudos thanks, I had to upload the R20 file as some of it was missing off the 705..
http://www.strava.com/activities/195821395
This is the ride well a course for most of the ride excluding the last couple of little loops.
For the segment course 11 strava gives 193ft but look deeper and it shows elev gain at 713ft which is close to what RWGPS corrected gives for the whole ride, so what is the 193ft its not max elev.
However in the main data section for the ride it gives 451ft
For those that gave me kudos thanks, I had to upload the R20 file as some of it was missing off the 705..
http://www.strava.com/activities/195821395
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welsh dragon
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