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The Mighty Boosh

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Anglesey
last night's ride after work, 47 miles and I'm still not tierd
https://www.endomondo.com/workouts/384887943/14363741
yep I'm getting there.
 
@SpokeyDokey
This is from a Bryton Rider 20 very similar to an Edge 200, but it doesn't have the course but it is Ant+ so you can add sp/cad/hr sensors if you wish, these can be used on any Ant+ device so you change the unit with out changing the sensors or as in my case using two units (Edge 705 and a Rider 20) and both will receive the data.
http://www.strava.com/activities/135519628

If you look at this segment it will show you how any gps unit can be wayward under tree cover.
http://www.strava.com/activities/135519628/segments/3071321670

Both the edge 500/10 and the Rider 40, both are ant+ and have breadcrumb routes, the 500 would also give turn indicators not sure about the 40, and I cant remember what the 35 did.
The brytons are a little more tricky to use as you have to down load a tcx file to upload to strava ect..... (though its is very easy), the native bdx file is not supported by many sites, but you have a choice either the bdx, tcx, gpx, and pwx I think, down load this as a tcx and it can be uploaded to any site supporting tcx.

Rider 21E £78 This is an updated version I think the elevation should be better than my R20.
as above with dual sp/cad and HR
Rider 40E £90
as above with dual sensor and hr
Whilst the 20 is a great basic unit, I had elevation issues with the 35, but also with the 500, losing altitude whilst stationary, I have only quickly seen one review for the 40 and it wasn't positive, but it could have the users lack of understanding.

Hope this helps.
I have the 500 and it has been fine
YEs Going up Box Hill, the route can be well off, i did three ascents. As you can see there was considerable drift. I am sure it is more to do with trees and atmospheric conditions
The one annoyance is that if I am away from home (but having a wifi connection), I need to have the only beaten up old laptop I have to upload. The 500 has no Bluetooth connection - I believe the 510 may be one up there.

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Pontefract
The one thing I have noticed, is that the R20 and R35 were on the whole more accurate than the Edge 500, though both did suffer from errors, the edge 705 has the ability to follow road, so it will plot the track to the centre of the road you are travelling along, presume the 800/10, 1000 and possibly the Rider 50 and 60 have, the rider 50 has a different mount like 705, though I think you can get a quarter turn adaptor, but they are not cheap like the 705 ones, not sure on the mount on the Rider 60.
 
Oooer 5 degrees first thing....windows steamed up when I put the kettle on! :cold: Sun's out now though so it'll soon warm up.
Must be so frustrating with the good weather seeing all these rides going on

We are away to Cornwall next two weeks, me , Mrs Stonechat, doggy and the bike.
The hills look terrifying, but I willjust have to learn to cope with them and pace my effort
 

SpokeyDokey

67, & my GP says I will officially be old at 70!
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Ta for replies re Edge 200.

For those of you who use Strava - is there a raft of data that sits behind those rides that you post or is that it?

Ditto - can you set goals (mileage etc) by month/yer etc?

The Garmin Connect datasets look quite appealing to me - does Strava do something similar.

Tbh I am not much into competing against other people and segment times and stuff - I just want a way to log height gained mainly. And at the same time log my usual miles/av' speed data.

The only way I can currently get altitude info' is from my heavy (for cycling) Magellan GPS.

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Been a nice day whilst I was working (for a change!), got home, had a brew, went to get togged up for a ride and.....it rained!

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Hope you all had/have spiffing rides!
 

Mo1959

Legendary Member
Ta for replies re Edge 200.

For those of you who use Strava - is there a raft of data that sits behind those rides that you post or is that it?

Ditto - can you set goals (mileage etc) by month/yer etc?

The Garmin Connect datasets look quite appealing to me - does Strava do something similar.

Tbh I am not much into competing against other people and segment times and stuff - I just want a way to log height gained mainly. And at the same time log my usual miles/av' speed data.

The only way I can currently get altitude info' is from my heavy (for cycling) Magellan GPS.

***

Been a nice day whilst I was working (for a change!), got home, had a brew, went to get togged up for a ride and.....it rained!

***

Hope you all had/have spiffing rides!
It logs total mileage since you started, annual mileage, elevation and has a training calendar breaking down your weekly/monthly rides. I think you have to pay for premium to set goals.

Nothing to stop you using more than one site. I actually log rides on Strava and Garmin Connect and more recently ridewithgps as well.
 

SpokeyDokey

67, & my GP says I will officially be old at 70!
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It logs total mileage since you started, annual mileage, elevation and has a training calendar breaking down your weekly/monthly rides. I think you have to pay for premium to set goals.

Nothing to stop you using more than one site. I actually log rides on Strava and Garmin Connect and more recently ridewithgps as well.

Thanks Mo - can you dump the data sets into .xls or .csv for back-ups on your own drive?
 

Mo1959

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Thanks Mo - can you dump the data sets into .xls or .csv for back-ups on your own drive?
You can certainly save them. Can't remember the format. Nigel will be the person to advise you better on stuff like that.
 
It logs total mileage since you started, annual mileage, elevation and has a training calendar breaking down your weekly/monthly rides. I think you have to pay for premium to set goals.

Nothing to stop you using more than one site. I actually log rides on Strava and Garmin Connect and more recently ridewithgps as well.
you can also log the mileage per part on your bike as well.. (click on it for a larger image) - that is on the free version as well.
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Jack Lloyd

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Just thought I would introduce myself, I have done so over in the welcome mat, but here seems appropriate too.

I brought my first bike in 8 years last month 11th ish I believe!, started doing small loops around my village I think it's a 5km loop, but have slowly been increasing the range :smile:.

Today I managed to do a 27k hilly, raining (sorry throwing it down), loop in around 1 hour 28, with a avg speed of 18k/h. I usually can do around 20k/h avg speed, but that's on less hilly routes. I have yet to do a flat route, living in North Wales it's pretty hard to find a flat road :smile:, come October when I'm back at University I should find flat routes and hilly routes hopefully.

Here's todays activity from my Garmin edge 200 http://connect.garmin.com/activity/557664946
Considering I only did 1hr of exercise (PE in school) a week for the last 8 years, I'm pretty happy :smile:
 

welsh dragon

Thanks but no thanks. I think I'll pass.
Congratulations. We have problems living I wales with the kind of hills we have here. Welcome. Hope yoh enjoy thè forum
 
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Pontefract
I log my own component parts, mainly out of interest, its like the new shifters have done just short of 600 miles the Sora 9sp lasted about 2,500 miles and my front tyre 7664 without a visit :smile:
@SpokeyDokey rwgps will give better elevation data, but I think there is a problem (or was) with the conversion from the fit format that the newer Edge units use.
The 200 and the R20 take the elevation from the gps plot when uploaded to a site, more expensive units have a barometric altimeter which is suppose to be more accurate, though temp and sudden pressure changes can effect this, as can stopping for :birthday:or :cheers:.
My last few rides showing the rwgps 705 data corrected on rwgps, the elevation from the Bryton unit and the raw data from the 705
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Today the R20 was 436ft less than that corrected by rwgps the 705 only 6ft, but as you can see it varies.

To backup just copy the files from the gps unit with garmin you can drag and drop, bryton you use the bryton bridge to transfer.

The strava segment is just as good for your own p.b's, though after a while your local segments will be come difficult to beat as at some point you will do them on a good day with a good tail wind, and after that the prove almost impossible to beat, part of the reason I look for roads I havent done before ( which are pretty few and far between in a 15 mile radius which actually is a lot of roads.)

Veloviwer is a better site to analyse your data, it uses the data from strava so you still need to upload to strava, but much more comprehensive.
Be sure a base model is what you want long term though, the R20 does Ant+ Edge 200 doesn't, so if you want HR ect in the future you will need the 500/10 up or any Bryton, if not the course feature on the 200 might be useful I found the one on the 500 to be so.

In a nutshell none are perfect, each has their +points and -points, if you only compare the elevation from one site from ride to ride it gives an idea how difficult each ride was. I could go on about that one.
Same table as above using the climbybike formula to give a difficulty score, also a ft/mile, (taken from the corrected rwgps data)
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The difficulty per mile tends to drop the further I go, just goes to show how flat it isn't around here, but it is only really pretty local. but it does show how a 1.8 mile ride can be more difficult than a 6.4 mile ride, or 32 mile ride is more difficult than a 62 mile ride, and as stands to reason the more you climb per foot the slower you tend to be though not always.
 

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