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Got a phone call last night Emma. Arranged for 5pm today. Just getting organised and having my breakfast. Although it's not till 5 they always seem to want you in ages before it for paperwork, etc. Neighbour will take me into Perth and I will get the bus to Ninewells and get in there for just before 11 so still six hours to sit and chew my nearly non-existant nails!. Lol.
Best Wishes Mo. Fingers crossed for you and will be thinking of you when I am cycling home from yet more gardening... (last for a while, they and then I am on holiday).
 
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@Mo1959 Hoping things go well this time.
 

Supersuperleeds

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Got a phone call last night Emma. Arranged for 5pm today. Just getting organised and having my breakfast. Although it's not till 5 they always seem to want you in ages before it for paperwork, etc. Neighbour will take me into Perth and I will get the bus to Ninewells and get in there for just before 11 so still six hours to sit and chew my nearly non-existant nails!. Lol.

All the best Mo, make sure that as soon as you can you come on here and tell us all you are okay.
 

welsh dragon

Thanks but no thanks. I think I'll pass.
Another hour on my bike. Hot and heavy weather today.
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moo

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Garmin showed an avg of 17.1 mph but Strava shows 16 .8 mph when I upload the ride, why is this? I've noticed it a few times but thought it was a glitch. It also pinches a bit off the Max speed as well :angry:

I suspect they use a different length of time in seconds before flagging you as having stopped moving. The Garmin would naturally be more generous and stop almost instantly. Strava being used with so many low quality phones will need to use a longer time period.
 
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I suspect they use a different length of time in seconds before flagging you as having stopped moving. The Garmin would naturally be more generous and stop almost instantly. Strava being used with so many low quality phones will need to use a longer time period.
Not necessarily, because distances can be different too, the biggest difference is in elevation, though strava tends to give more on the 705 than the 705 records, I still use the rwgps corrected even if its lower. There are also usually minor differences between my Rider 20 and the 705, even though both are started and stopped with a second or two of each other. The R 20 has no auto pause whilst the 705 does, today for instance
R20, ride time 2:10:49, 34.32 miles @ 15.7mph elevation 807ft
705, ride time 2:11:04, 34.31 miles @ 15.7mph elevation 1250ft

Both using the same sp/cad sensor and the same wheel circumference for a 25mm tyre.
The main difference is the R20 records every 3's the 705 on smart recording, in other words when something changes, I would set it to every second but it had a habit of switching off mid ride.

Edit for the record rwgps 1325ft and strava 1361ft.
Starva times 2:11:45 34.3 miles and 15.6mph. data from the 705.
 
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You've also got to factor in the accuracy of the GPS units for the entire route. Whilst one unit might be able to pin point you down to a metre accuracy, the other might be five, during certain sections. Therefore, the two units will calculate that you've gone different routes/distances and calculate your averages different.

With me and some friends, it doesn't matter if we're running or cycling. All of our GPS trackers will give slightly different distances and therefore averages, regardless of how close we've travelled along the same route.

I personally wouldn't care about the differences. I would just chose to listen to the values a GPS unit gives over a phone and i would chose a more expensive GPS unit over a cheaper GPS unit. Purely because of the build quality. Ie. Stronger antenna's, faster and more power processors, etc etc. A phone is no where near ideal for tracking someone's pace, distance travelled, etc. It's only good for giving you an approximation. But if someone can't afford or chooses not to spend the money on a standalone GPS unit, a phone is the next best thing.
 
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You've also got to factor in the accuracy of the GPS units for the entire route. Whilst one unit might be able to pin point you down to a metre accuracy, the other might be five, during certain sections. Therefore, the two units will calculate that you've gone different routes/distances and calculate your averages different.

With me and some friends, it doesn't matter if we're running or cycling. All of our GPS trackers will give slightly different distances and therefore averages, regardless of how close we've travelled along the same route.

I personally wouldn't care about the differences. I would just chose to listen to the values a GPS unit gives over a phone and i would chose a more expensive GPS unit over a cheaper GPS unit. Purely because of the build quality. Ie. Stronger antenna's, faster and more power processors, etc etc. A phone is no where near ideal for tracking someone's pace, distance travelled, etc. It's only good for giving you an approximation. But if someone can't afford or chooses not to spend the money on a standalone GPS unit, a phone is the next best thing.

Superfluous if your using a sp/cad sensor as time and distance are recorded from that, the main point that was being made was overall avg sp, I get two different readings from the two units, covering the same distance from the same sensor, so the gps data is irrelevant, and yet even though the overall distance and speed are worked out from the basic howfar/howlong formula, the results vary from site to site give different distances and times.
rwgps 2:11:58, 34.3 miles @ 15.6mph elev 1325ft
strava 2:11:45 34.3 miles @ 15.6mph elev 1361ft
raw data GTC 2:11:03 34.31 miles @ 15.7mph elev 1250ft

As I said this is from the same file uploaded straight from the unit to the varies sites
The Bryton gave 2:10:49 34.32 miles @ 15.7mph 807ft elev. this is from their site.
Strava seems to truncate rather than round up or down.
and to add to that the Bryton R20 does not have an auto pause yet still had less moving time.
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