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Effyb4

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I was looking forward to going out and doing a 50 mile ride today, but didn't feel great when I got up. I decided to leave it for another day. I might go out tomorrow with the beginners club ride if I feel better. I'm quite pleased I didn't go out in the end because the heavens opened at about the time I would have been half way round. I would have got soaked.

@Mo1959 and @welsh dragon I'm so pleased it isn't only me who doesn't understand the gear ratios. I just know to ride in a gear that is comfortable for me. I never know exactly what gear it is.
 
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So why didn't you go ten speed then? 8 to 9 maybe different but I ride a 7 speed double and a 9 speed triple and can find the right gears for feeling comfortable on both. Also the second Cassette looks loads more versatile anyway even if you took out one sprocket like the 16.

I am much the same Dragon and Mo. Only saw the real difference when I swapped from 11-27 to 11-30 and then 11-34 rear cassette. Much more comfortable ride now and can get up hills which I usually struggled up. Also don't have to change onto small ring on gentle climbs now as middle will do me.
Cost, I am very poor, and not sure I can split 10sp cassettes the same way I do 7/8/9 sp ones. i picked up a set of Sora 3400 shifters for £50, a 9 speed chain £15 and a cassette £11, its took me along time working out what the right gears are for me, you quote me your rear ratios but without knowing what the front is for either it means nothing, it is very unlike I will push a 52x11 on anything but down hill even a 52x12 would be difficult, so my highest gear is a 52x13 105", i have changed my middle ring from 42 to 40 to enable better spinning and to have a closer grouping, it has meant it has however had two detrimental effects one my 40x13 sometimes is not high enough, not a major problem as 52x17 is about the same gear, the other being as the middle ring is no long ramped shifting from the 30th to the 40th is a little more difficult again not a major problem as as this only happens after climbs, the 19-21-24-27 isnt such a bad range though the jumps are a little on the large size, where you are you might need the lower range of gears, I dont for the most part, what I do have to contend with are winds off the north sea, and trust me a 10mph nor nor/east is wicked,

My ideal set up currently would be a 52/40 posilble41/30 with a 13/14/15/16/17/18/20/22/25/28, if I climb anything that needs less than that I would just stick on a lower set of ratios and suffer the larger jumps, and if you can find a better set up of gears on any road bike, for gear choice and range please do let me know, as things are going an 11 rear will be common soon because of manufactures policy, but at these tolerances, its going to be difficult for the home mechanic to make many choices for themselves, the biggest difference between a triple and a compact for range is the number of gears a compact rear has to go to get to the same gear range, the greater the range the more the equipment has to work within certain tolerances, hence the high price of modern equipment, and does it last as long, well lets see if this 105RD lasts as long as a Sora RD3300 thats worked outside its tolerances for so long.,

I can see where improvements have been made the pivots where they may wear are now inside the outer casing, the rest hasn't changed much, except it doesn't sit as close to my rear cogs, is this an off set to compensate to have the ability to use lower gears, if i want to use really low gears just put a MTB RD on they work just the same.

To add to this a lot of my gear changes are so subtle you hardly notice and it takes two gear changes to notice, this is what I mean by being to high or low
 

welsh dragon

Thanks but no thanks. I think I'll pass.
I was looking forward to going out and doing a 50 mile ride today, but didn't feel great when I got up. I decided to leave it for another day. I might go out tomorrow with the beginners club ride if I feel better. I'm quite pleased I didn't go out in the end because the heavens opened at about the time I would have been half way round. I would have got soaked.

@Mo1959 and @welsh dragon I'm so pleased it isn't only me who doesn't understand the gear ratios. I just know to ride in a gear that is comfortable for me. I never know exactly what gear it is.

Ha ha. Thats exactly what I do. Nigel just makes me gobsmacked when he talks abiut gears and ratios and....... hope you feel better tomorrow.
 
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I was looking forward to going out and doing a 50 mile ride today, but didn't feel great when I got up. I decided to leave it for another day. I might go out tomorrow with the beginners club ride if I feel better. I'm quite pleased I didn't go out in the end because the heavens opened at about the time I would have been half way round. I would have got soaked.

@Mo1959 and @welsh dragon I'm so pleased it isn't only me who doesn't understand the gear ratios. I just know to ride in a gear that is comfortable for me. I never know exactly what gear it is.
knowing what gear it is isn't important, knowing where it is can be, simple so you can plan what is in front of you a little better
 
@Stonechat if your riding a nine speed I can tell you how to change the cassette to what you want, I am not sure if I could on a 10sp I dont have enough knowledge yet.
Well yes have a 9 speed
I did look to see how much 10 speed deraiileurs and shifters were
I do think it should be within my capabilities. (Though not done before)
Think the Shimano 10 speed cassettes are
11 12 14 16 18 20 22 25 28 32
My 9 speed is
11 12 14 16 18 21 24 28 32

I have no idea of the limitations of changing individual gears or compatibility
I suppose it might be a winter job to change it
 

BrynCP

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Hull
I'm quite pleased I didn't go out in the end because the heavens opened at about the time I would have been half way round. I would have got soaked.

This happened to me the other day. Cycling through back lanes, fields either side, and the sky goes from blue to black in minutes, skies open and it hails, rains heavily and then worse lightning and thunder. Every bolt of lightning looked and sounded like it was just beside me in the field. I had no where to shelter, had no water proof attire, and the temps dropped 10C and I was soaked and finding it hard to catch my breath! An experience I'd like to not repeat, but all I could do was cycle on and well I lived!

I just know to ride in a gear that is comfortable for me. I never know exactly what gear it is.

I sort of understand ratios, but can I shift gears without messing up and spinning my legs frantically? No.
 

welsh dragon

Thanks but no thanks. I think I'll pass.
Right I will shut the f up and go and do something better then, like test the new rd out.

Im sorry. Didnt mean to offend you Nigel. Just because I don't understand what your saying doesn't mean that others dont. Sorry.
 
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Well yes have a 9 speed
I did look to see how much 10 speed deraiileurs and shifters were
I do think it should be within my capabilities. (Though not done before)
Think the Shimano 10 speed cassettes are
11 12 14 16 18 20 22 25 28 32
My 9 speed is
11 12 14 16 18 21 24 28 32

I have no idea of the limitations of changing individual gears or compatibility
I suppose it might be a winter job to change it
On a 9sp 30/39/50 I would start no lower than 12 on a road bike thats 109" the 11 being wasteful, so 12/13/15/17/19/21/23/25/28, depending on the BCD of your inner ring drop that to a 28th that would give a 1:1, not sure about a winter job, an afternoon with the bits to hand, your only changing two things
 
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Wasn't impressed, other than it being new and it expecting to change better, having said that it is quieter on the 52 ring in all gears right up to the 27 (large x large) which should mean as noise is a waste of energy, more should be transferred to the wheel. Not that it will make me any quicker.
 

Goonerobes

Its okay to be white
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Wiltshire
Today's satnav tour of the Test Valley ended up being a comedy of errors!

Firstly I started the route on Garmin but forgot to start the timer so missed the first 10 miles or so then it rained & I had no jacket with me & ended up soaked then I realised I had planned a ridiculously complicated out route along far to many twisty single track roads & then to cap it all my back-up iphone Strava ap had lost the satellite signal so I still didn't get a full route recorded! :banghead:

Did I enjoy though? Hell yes, I was out in the fresh air on my bike!! ^_^

http://www.strava.com/activities/153438808
 
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