Cycleops
Legendary Member
- Location
- Accra, Ghana
Can imagine that’s going to be very popular north of the border. I believe Yorkshire will be next.
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classic33
Leg End Member
Leeds had it three years ago.
mudsticks
Obviously an Aubergine
Excessively low prices come at a cost.
But usually a hidden cost to workers, and the environment.
The 'true cost' of producing , and moving food, is not reflected in the price.
The migrant labour from Eastern Europe, who used to come to work in our fields - and worked skillfully and very hard for their money - are no longer coming - we all know why right ?
Before them it was a mobile labour force from elsewhere - but we've always used seasonal labour on our farms - and also in processing and distribution.
Farm gate returns are very low - but everyone likes cheap food right?
Even those who could afford to pay a bit more.
Cut out the extractive middle man - where possible - shorten the supply chain - so the producer captures more of the food pound - and can create resilience - and make a living - buy more local and seasonal - seek out co operatives - look for fairer trading - not all retailers are the same -
- Not even all the multiples are the same...
Workers conditions and rights, food quality, environmental consequences - we can take these into account when purchasing.
If we buy on price alone, then becomes a race to the bottom where retailers will nail their suppliers to the floor - its generally a buyers market in fresh produce.
If enough food consumers become more ethical food citizens then the market and supply chain can change, over time.
And it will take government support too .
It will take time - and concerted effort.
Our food system has been systematically pushed in the opposite direction, big sheds selling largely imported produce , and consumers expecting to have everything available all the time. The retailers taking most of the profit
Re organising all that so we are more food secure in this country - and food is good quality as standard will take years, but we could be doing far more towards acheiving that end right now.
if we let in cheap unregulated imports, from places like the US where production standards are lower that will make it all worse - it will diminish food security - not enhance it.
i'm also aware that some people don't have enough money to buy decent food for themselves - but thats not the fault of food prices - its things like some peoples incomes being so low.
Paradoxically many of the people working in the lowly paid food sector, are also suffering food poverty.
Still on sale in the US and elsewhere.
The bromate issue was with one contaminated batch, but it killed the UK branding.
Kingfisher101
Veteran
Just get something else or don't get as many things, there's too much consumerism and buying tat generally.
Beebo
Firm and Fruity
- Location
- Hexleybeef
It was from their bottling plant in Sidcup. south east London.
It’s only a few miles from my house.
They did filter it and add minerals too. Which is we’re the contamination came from. It was fine straight out of the tap.
its probably not much different to the stuff from Buxton but it’s all image, and once you’ve lost it you’re stuffed.
cougie uk
Guru
Where are you getting this from ? My friends in Spain aren't seeing any shortages ? If they aren't I suspect the rest of Europe aren't either.
- Location
- London
agree - by law, all villages over a certain size should have a bench and a public water fountain that works - any without or which allow them to fall in disrepair should be struck from the map. I've cycled a lot in southern italy where rainfall is sparse and it's still easier to find public water than the UK. There are a few free water things round london these days though you have to look out for them - they are on an app I think.
Brandane
Legendary Member
- Location
- Costa Clyde
What; a tap?
Or am I misunderstanding something here?
oldwheels
Legendary Member
- Location
- Isle of Mull
When I was a kid nearly every village had a water point called mostly a "fountain" tho' they were not really fountains in the usual sense. When we first came to live in Tobermory 50 years ago there were several such points around the town. All have now been removed. There were two taps for public use but when tourism became big business they were abused by not being turned off after use and have now all been removed or padlocked. Motorhomes were particularly bad for this and some parked beside them and just left their hose attached preventing anyone else from using them.
When cycle touring anywhere near the coast most jetties or piers have a tap for local boat use.
Ming the Merciless
There is no mercy
- Location
- Inside my skull
Good to know
oldwheels
Legendary Member
- Location
- Isle of Mull
I have never actually seen one as I travel rarely now but pictures show what looks like a press upwards tap for refilling water bottles. There is almost certainly information on line but I cannot look it up just now.
DCBassman
Guru
- Location
- The lumpy far South West
Just got a new microwave. From my son. He was going to skip it. Nothing wrong in any way, just a bit big for his kitchen.
Almost everything I own is secondhand, I'm a lousy consumer!
Almost everything I own is secondhand, I'm a lousy consumer!
- Location
- London
I would imagine they are like the techie freestanding things you get around london supplied by thames water - you plonk your bottle on a stand under the dispenser - no tap to turn as I recall - maybe a button - can't remember. I came across a very welcome one in the carpark at Lyndhurst New Forest on a mini tour last year.
You can also wander in any spoons and get free water.
And a few other places in the Refill scheme.
