Shimano groupsets

[Nigelnaturist]

I think as soon as they drop those silly indicators, I think there will be a big improvement.

 

[winjim]

Would be interesting if anybody has the info on Campag and SRAM. Where would they slot into the pecking order, based on price?

Current Campagnolo order is Veloce, Athena, Potenza, Chorus, Record. Record is the top level groupset but above that is Super Record. Super Record special editions seem to crop up from time to time. Potenza is the latest addition and is intended as a direct competitor to Shimano Ultegra. You can still get Xenon and Mirage parts which are below Veloce, and Centaur which is between Athena and Chorus but stayed 10sp when they moved to 11.

 

[Nigelnaturist]

One other thing Campangnolo do over Shimano is an 11sp triple.

 

[winjim]

One other thing Campangnolo do over Shimano is an 11sp triple.

They've binned off the Athena doubles in favour of Potenza, but then lowered the bottom sprocket to a 32 to give a very similar range. Obviously aimed at the sportive crowd who need the low gearing but don't want to be seen riding a triple.

 

[Nigelnaturist]

They've binned off the Athena doubles in favour of Potenza, but then lowered the bottom sprocket to a 32 to give a very similar range. Obviously aimed at the sportive crowd who need the low gearing but don't want to be seen riding a triple.

I think its just such a retrograde step, how many can't see the benefits of a close grouped cassette with low gearing, my gearing currently is 25-110" yet most of my riding is on the middle 38th ring with a range of 37 to 83" I would prefer a 12-13-14-1516-17-18-20-22-25 over the 12-13-14-15-16-17-19-21-24-27 or the current 12-23 10sp the stepping after the 17th is just wrong. 17-18-20-22-25 gives better ratios than 17-19-21-23-25 especially as the ratios increase as opposed to decrease on 12-25

 

[RegG]

This article on RoadCC explains all the Shimano road group sets.....

http://road.cc/content/buyers-guide/206768-your-complete-guide-shimano-road-bike-groupsets

 

[alecstilleyedye]

tiagra is rubbish, i've worn a chainring out in only 10 years

 

[si_c]

I'd opt for tiagra, for a number of reasons. First it's excellent, as mentioned, it's basically 105 from 2 years ago, it's also much much cheaper to replace consumables than the "better" groupsets. At £15 for a cassette for example, you can't really go wrong, and for a bike to be used for commuting, you can't really argue, and it'll be a huge step up from claris.

 

[ozboz]

The Deore stuff , is that obselete now ? There is still a lot of it for sale on the internet ,

 

[vickster]

It's not a road bike groupset, more hybrids and MTBs. The ones is your OP include road bike brifters with the branding on

 

[Kajjal]

Deore is the cheapest good quality mountain bike groupset, it works well.

Mountain bike group sets, ignoring the cheaper stuff

Deore, slx, xt, xtr

 

[Blue Hills]

well my Alivio 8 speed crankset is rather nice - discontinued of course.

I had the intention like chappie above that Deore was also now discontinued though quite nice V brakes are still available. For V brake levers I actually prefer cheaper than Deore. Cheaper can be better with bike stuff if you are unconcerned about a few grams.

 

[ozboz]

Ah , my Surley CC has some Deore bits on it , and my mountain bikes also ,
Answers the question ! Many Thanks

 

[winjim]

While we're on the subject, where did they get the silly names from? What does Tiagra even mean? And why doesn't 105 end in -ra? It doesn't fit with the rest. And if it's Japanese, shouldn't there be an n between Dura and Ace? It doesn't roll off the tongue too well.

 

[Blue Hills]

While we're on the subject, where did they get the silly names from? What does Tiagra even mean? And why doesn't 105 end in -ra? It doesn't fit with the rest. And if it's Japanese, shouldn't there be an n between Dura and Ace? It doesn't roll off the tongue too well.

considering such things even for a second is the path to madness.