papercorn2000
Senior Member
How do you sleep at night?
col said:Horlics ?
mr_hippo said:A two-wheeled numpty going too fast for the road conditions and blames others.
FWIW, I find roundabouts are best taken at a fair speed, as much in the flow of traffic as you can be. Anything else risks dangerous overtaking and left hooks (imo).betty swollocks said:Too fast for road conditions: certainly not.
Blames others: yes, absolutely it was their fault entirely.
John the Monkey said:FWIW, . I'm surprised the instructor didn't operate the dual controls to stop the manouevre tbh.
I'd say putting your vehicle in someone else's path is a bit *too* much leeway, personallybetty swollocks said:As I said in my initial post, maybe the driver was on her test, where I surmise you are given a little leeway to fail and where an instructor would have intervened.
betty swollocks said:As I said in my initial post, maybe the driver was on her test, where I surmise you are given a little leeway to fail and where an instructor would have intervened.
In all seriousness Col, where do you ride? Do you have to go across roundabouts? How do you tackle them, and do you not feel a bit aggrieved if someone takes your right of way on them?col said:Dont worry, she wont have failed because of you, the instructor would have said to her "its ok you get the odd cyclist like that"![]()
John the Monkey said:In all seriousness Col, where do you ride? Do you have to go across roundabouts? How do you tackle them, and do you not feel a bit aggrieved if someone takes your right of way on them?
col said:Joking aside then, the only thing I found terrible here was the fact that it was a learner that made a mistake and got verbal while possibly on a test, if there was a serious mistake made the instuctor would have pointed this out.
As for approaching roundabouts at speed, I only do this if i can see there are none or not enough cars to make it a bit dodgy not braking before entering the roundabout, if I have any doubt of the timing of this I will slow.
I tend to not bandy words with motorists in general, but it can be difficult to keep calm when someone pulls out ahead of you, wouldn't you agree?col said:...the only thing I found terrible here was the fact that it was a learner that made a mistake and got verbal while possibly on a test, if there was a serious mistake made the instuctor would have pointed this out.
Agreed - I do a few roundabouts at the start of my commute, generally with the flow of the bulk of the traffic (i.e. it and I tend to be entering and leaving from the same places). Obviously I do give way to traffic already on/entering from my right, but in general slowing too much will have traffic trying to cut around me and beat me to the exit (usually the same one I'm taking). It makes sense to maintain a fair speed on the way through so that "need" to pass doesn't appear for the drivers.As for approaching roundabouts at speed, I only do this if i can see there are none or not enough cars to make it a bit dodgy not braking before entering the roundabout, if I have any doubt of the timing of this I will slow.
John the Monkey said:I'd say putting your vehicle in someone else's path is a bit *too* much leeway, personally![]()