Reforming the UCI

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Orbytal

Active Member
Great article but at the end the day UCI have 1 official body to convince and that is the IOC for recognition. Rogge has already publicly backed UCI so I am not expecting anything other than Pat playing it safe.
 

thom

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Wow.

Sponsor SKINZ sue the UCI, McQuaid, Verbruggen.

This really turns the heat up on the named defendants. I can't see their position is tenable now.

I wonder if SKINZ will accept the resignation of McQuaid and Verbruggen as their settlement?
Given Henricus Verbruggen has not really been responsible for anything since 2008, I'm not sure why he's a named defendent there.
Not sure what to feel - the main issue is to have a fully independent, credible commission with a remit to investigate as much as they deem appropriate.
 

Buddfox

Veteran
Location
London
Much as I dislike HV and PM, that looks like a load of kite-flying cock to my untrained eye.

Hard to disagree - if I received that letter it would go straight in the bin. I could barely describe my eye as semi-trained, but that letter bears no resemblance to the sort of work I'd expect from the law firms I work with. The drafting of that letter does more to discredit Skins than their association with cycling (pro or otherwise).
 

Orbytal

Active Member
This must be a joke.

The teams/athletes Skins sponsored doped and it's UCI fault?

Time to take out the trash again I think.
 
@dogtired I have read about all the lost sponsors like you have but also watched in amazement as they walk across the line from Athlete Armstrong to Livestrong Armstrong and we see him at events in his Nike gear, Oakley glasses etc. It doesn’t appear to have changed much to me! A stronger message would have been better surely?

I agree about LA and also that anyone caught should suffer what is set down for them.
I would also add to your post that if anyone has done any research, even a limited amount, cannot be surprised there was/is doping in Cycling as it forms part of its history and accepted as such.

I feel that you have missed the point I have made however in an attempt to defend GL innocence, but possibly also helped reinforce it as well.

With the large number of past riders, managers, etc. admitting to doping Cycling is ground down in debates which rider is next to fall and reasons why they were involved in doping, many with as little evidence as can be associated to GL.

If we are satisfied to take such an extreme stance why should anyone be left of the list of suspicion present or past including GL?
I read in forums....wow didn’t expect him,.... I knew it he rode with, ......he was in team X and they had a number of dopers etc. etc.

GL rode with Fignon! Does that mean he doped?
GL was diagnosed as anaemic does that means he doped?
GL received injections at Giro does that mean he doped?
GL has been photographed with LA, JH, SY etc. does that mean he doped?

There is an ability to make the challenge for anyone but where does it all end?

Why would any athlete want to add the pressure of trying to prove innocence whilst training and competing when a photo in a paper with someone who gets caught later or he was in the Team etc. The current rules of engagement will drive athletes away from Sport.

Interesting parallel with Paul Kimmage and Bradley Wiggins.... he is somewhat scathing about Wiggins and Sky



"“People ask me how I feel about Wiggins leading the Tour de France – I don’t know, I can’t answer the question. I should be jumping up and down and thrilled for the guys, but I don’t like what I am hearing,” he told VeloNation earlier this week. “When asked about doping, the answers from Wiggins now sound the same as with Armstrong and Floyd.”
“I don’t recognise the Wiggins now, compared to the guy I interviewed in 2007 to when he was sent out of the Tour,” he said. “I can’t compare these two guys as their responses are completely the opposite. I don’t understand what has happened. I don’t know how you can lead the Tour de France and not speak out about doping, yet speak out in the past so openly. There’s also a completely about-turn from Wiggins on his response to Armstrong, when compared to his previous stance on anti-doping"
 

Orbytal

Active Member
Is everyone a fair target at the moment?

I would also suggest I have a far better chance of getting an interview with SKY than PK just now! lol
 
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