Questionable experience on a group ride

[Profpointy]

Possibly, but after @Archeress had introduced herself by her name, any further references to gentlemen or MAMILS becomes crass stupidity. Unforgiveable frankly.

I'd missed that bit - and still can't see it, but if that's the case, I do see the point

 

[jefmcg]

Possibly, but after @Archeress had introduced herself by her name, any further references to gentlemen or MAMILS becomes crass stupidity. Unforgiveable frankly.

Well, possibly even then it's a mistake. Most female names have similar sounding male equivalents. He might have misheard.

I was the only woman in a motorcycle training course, and never got the certificate in my name, but the masculine equivalent. Not strictly misgendering, but just someone seeing a man's name because they expected to.

 

[potsy]

Well, possibly even then it's a mistake. Most female names have similar sounding male equivalents. He might have misheard.

I was the only woman in a motorcycle training course, and never got the certificate in my name, but the masculine equivalent. Not strictly misgendering, but just someone seeing a man's name because they expected to.

To be fair Jeff is quite a male sounding name

 

[Cuchilo]

Then perhaps you could do us all a favour, and either keep your thoughts to yourself, and don't revisit the thread, or perhaps you could take the time to read it and engage a bit of thinking power about how your comment is completely unhelpful, disrespectful and thoughtless?

I had thought about putting my moderator hat on and deleting the comment and references to it, but it may serve others to read it and reflect on how it fits in with other prejudices and lack of respect.

Maybe if it was in Health issues where self harm and depression are normally discussed then people wouldn't have stumbled across it and read it in the general cycling area .

 

[outlash]

Perhaps so but do people need insulating from stuff?

Indeed. Perhaps if people didn't act like knobbers then this thread wouldn't exist.

 

[Cuchilo]

Perhaps so but do people need insulating from stuff?

No not at all but there is a whole section devoted to it . Maybe get rid of that section and integrate it all into general discussions about cycling ?

 

[Cuchilo]

No there is another section for that .

 

[Cubist]

The health matters are background, not the point of the thread.

I've modded out the derailing spat posts, keep it civil please.

 

[Archeress]

I saw my care coordinator today and we were supposed to continue working on my WRAP (wellness recovery action plan), but she could see my health had dipped. We talked about the week and I spoke of the ride. She is going to talk to them for me without mentioning me. As a team they refer patients to them and they want to make sure that the ride leaders are more careful dealing with their clients in the future.

Archeress x

 

[Pat "5mph"]

All the best @Archeress, I think you're being extremely positive in the circumstances by not giving up the activity.
Hope your health gets better soon.

 

[stephec]

Maybe if it was in Health issues where self harm and depression are normally discussed then people wouldn't have stumbled across it and read it in the general cycling area .

Does it matter what section it's in, a bit of common sense is all that's needed?

 

[stephec]

Perhaps so but do people need insulating from stuff?

Judging by some peoples reaction to mentally handicapped people in public places they probably do.

 

[Glow worm]

I saw my care coordinator today and we were supposed to continue working on my WRAP (wellness recovery action plan), but she could see my health had dipped. We talked about the week and I spoke of the ride. She is going to talk to them for me without mentioning me. As a team they refer patients to them and they want to make sure that the ride leaders are more careful dealing with their clients in the future.

Archeress x

That sounds very positive and I hope you feel your care coordinator will be proactive and sensitive on your behalf. I can't offer any advice I'm afraid but I just hope very much that you continue riding and that you have a much more positive experience of group rides in future. It's easy for me to say, but really, don't let it put you off. All the very best.

 

[jefmcg]

All this "complain to the organisers" anger seems completely inappropriate given the "culprit" is presumably a volunteer freely contributing his time to try and help the wider community. Make suggestions for improvements by all means, but "official complaint" is a different thing.

Actually, I don't think it matters (in this case) if the person was a volunteer or paid. The point of these rides is to bring provide a safe place for people who need it. If one of the ride leaders is behaving in such a way that people partaking in the rides find it a hostile environment, then all the good that could come of the ride is gone. Someone a little more fragile @Archeress could find it more than they can deal with. It could mark the end of someone's last attempt a mixing with other people.

Sure, the organisers should be gentle with the ride leader in helping them improve or letting them go as appropriate, but if someone isn't making a positive contribution on these rides it's better they don't help at all, whatever their motives.

 

[Cuchilo]

Does it matter what section it's in, a bit of common sense is all that's needed?

If you have a problem with the sections then contact the site owner .