Questionable experience on a group ride

[Rohloff_Brompton_Rider]

Maybe I've read it wrong, but it seems to me you were discriminated against and victimised and it was intentional.

The comments made and the way you were treated by this individual is disgraceful in today's society, imo there is no room for this type of behaviour.

I'd recommend discussing this with your local LGBT group, plus you may find they run rides or other activities.

SAY NO TO STIGMA!!!!

 

[Cuchilo]

and drugs .

 

[Racing roadkill]

and drugs .

Unless your name is Lance Armstrong.

 

[Lee_M]

first rule of leading a ride - no one gets left behind, and no change of route unless unanimous. As for transgender - as a leader it would make no difference to me. Unless the person told me and explained why I should treat them differently from anyone else on the ride they would just be another person to get to the end.

Keep riding, cyclists are generally the friendliest non-judgemental people on the road, although you'll always get dicks in all walks of life!

 

[Racing roadkill]

first rule of leading a ride - no one gets left behind, and no change of route unless unanimous. As for transgender - as a leader it would make no difference to me. Unless the person told me and explained why I should treat them differently from anyone else on the ride they would just be another person to get to the end.

Keep riding, cyclists are generally the friendliest non-judgemental people on the road, although you'll always get dicks in all walks of life!

Very true, except we do get to change the route, without the need for it to be unanimous. If the main ride leader makes a shout on a 'dynamic diversion', that's what happens It can be a bit of a pain if the diversion causes any issues, that lead to a load of form filling, but that's where experience, and route reccy-ing come to the fore.

 

[Pat "5mph"]

You'd be surprised just how many 'banana skins' can wing their way towards you, when you've got all the "ride leader" gubbins on display. Think what is the absolutely ridiculously, unexpected event, that can occur, then multiply by 100. Try 'winging it' with no formal training to fall back on, it won't be pleasant.

That made me laugh: once somebody came at the start with a flat, she said, I hoped you could fix it for me!
The cheek lol, but I did fix it.

no change of route unless unanimous.

Well, sometimes you got to change the route, like the time when ice formed on the paths overnight, or if there's road works, or if the cycle path is shut off for any reason, stuff that happens after the reccie.
Agreed though, the ride leader in the OP was in the wrong.

 

[Gravity Aided]

Our local ride leader is a great fellow, does a fine job, and sends out e-mails detailing rides, lengths, and start times.

 

[Cubist]

yuck!

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[User16625]

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Something that was mentioned in the 1st post grossed me out.

 

[Lee_M]

Something that was mentioned in the 1st post grossed me out.

I'm assuming it was the 10 miles in 5 hours part?

 

[potsy]

Something that was mentioned in the 1st post grossed me out.

Cannot see it myself.

 

[Racing roadkill]

Cannot see it myself.

The bit about a picnic did make me think of this.

>shudder<

 

[Cubist]

Something that was mentioned in the 1st post grossed me out.

Then perhaps you could do us all a favour, and either keep your thoughts to yourself, and don't revisit the thread, or perhaps you could take the time to read it and engage a bit of thinking power about how your comment is completely unhelpful, disrespectful and thoughtless?

I had thought about putting my moderator hat on and deleting the comment and references to it, but it may serve others to read it and reflect on how it fits in with other prejudices and lack of respect.

 

[Profpointy]

Re-reading this, surely the seemingly insensitive mis-gendering is a genuine mistake, rather than some bizarre attempt to be offensive. Unless previously tipped-off, this is surely going to happen on occasion - and it's presumably quite a burden to a transgendered person to have to have to explain to everyone each time she happens to be wearing gender-neutral clothes or whatever. I'm sure it's also a burden to feel pressured to dress in an extra-feminine way to avoid this, but not everyone has come across this before, and is quite likely to be thrown the first time however sensitive and well-mannered they may be as a rule.

Regarding the change of plans etc, again I think some people are being a little harsh. The changed-plan was I understand changed back once the OP made the point she was a unsure of the route home. That's fair enough surely ? The organiser, perhaps naively thought a cafe shop, no more than a few miles from home in their own city wouldn't present anyone with any great difficulty - and when pointed it out that it would, went back to plan A.

All this "complain to the organisers" anger seems completely inappropriate given the "culprit" is presumably a volunteer freely contributing his time to try and help the wider community. Make suggestions for improvements by all means, but "official complaint" is a different thing.

Now, if the leader had indeed been wilfully insensitive / deliberately offensive and I've mis-read things (after all, I wasn't there), then that's a different matter, and is, I agree, utterly unacceptable.

 

[Cubist]

Re-reading this, surely the seemingly insensitive mis-gendering is a genuine mistake, rather than some bizarre attempt to be offensive. Unless previously tipped-off, this is surely going to happen on occasion - and it's presumably quite a burden to a transgendered person to have to have to explain to everyone each time she happens to be wearing gender-neutral clothes or whatever. I'm sure it's also a burden to feel pressured to dress in an extra-feminine way to avoid this, but not everyone has come across this before, and is quite likely to be thrown the first time however sensitive and well-mannered they may be as a rule.

Regarding the change of plans etc, again I think some people are being a little harsh. The changed-plan was I understand changed back once the OP made the point she was a unsure of the route home. That's fair enough surely ? The organiser, perhaps naively thought a cafe shop, no more than a few miles from home in their own city wouldn't present anyone with any great difficulty - and when pointed it out that it would, went back to plan A.

All this "complain to the organisers" anger seems completely inappropriate given the "culprit" is presumably a volunteer freely contributing his time to try and help the wider community. Make suggestions for improvements by all means, but "official complaint" is a different thing.

Now, if the leader had indeed been wilfully insensitive / deliberately offensive and I've mis-read things (after all, I wasn't there), then that's a different matter, and is, I agree, utterly unacceptable.

Possibly, but after @Archeress had introduced herself by her name, any further references to gentlemen or MAMILS becomes crass stupidity. Unforgiveable frankly.