Suppliers' pages really should be clear, with no recourse needed to phone ffs.
"Not certain of this but I think you’ll find that nobody manufactures old style ‘short’ Shimano free hubs anymore."
With respect, you comment this
@Proto , but if you're not certain why say this (which is false)?
https://www.cyclingtips.com/2022/08/a-guide-to-freehub-body-and-cassette-compatibility/
"Shimano’s Hyperglide (HG) freehub design has been around since 1990 and remains
the most common option in use today (NB 2022 article). It is now commonly referred to as an “HG Mountain” freehub body . . . [11t sprocket smallest]
"At (approx) 35 mm across the spline length, the original-width HG freehub remains current for mountain bike purposes, but is discontinued on road-specific wheels.
"Shimano 10, 11, and some 12-speed (if the smallest sprocket is 11T or greater) mountain bike cassettes are also a direct fit. . . . These newer 11 and 12-speed mountain bike cassettes fit the older and narrower HG freehub body by cantilevering the biggest cogs over the spokes.
"Things are more complicated with newer road drive trains. Shimano 10-speed road cassettes fit with the addition of a small 1 mm spacer behind the cassette
"The introduction of 11-speed road cassettes required a new freehub with the same spline pattern as Shimano HG, but an extra 1.85 mm of length to accommodate the additional sprocket (now measuring 36.85 mm). This is commonly just called “Shimano 11” or “HG 11”. Both Shimano and SRAM 11-speed road cassettes require this longer 11-speed freehub body. Similarly, new Shimano 12-speed road cassettes will fit HG 11 freehubs.
"
Shimano’s 11-speed 11-34T “road” cassettes are actually rebadged mountain bike cassettes, which means they will fit on “HG Mountain” freehub body [or] or an older road wheel. These cassettes require the use of a 1.85mm spacer (supplied) to fit on an 11-speed Road HG freehub.
