Police get 93-page guide to cycling
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Origamist
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John the Monkey
Frivolous Cyclist
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- Crewe
Unless the opening scenes of "Hot Fuzz" have lied to us.magnatom said:
Bromptonaut
Rohan Man
- Location
- Bugbrooke UK
magnatom said:
My thought hearing this on the radio this morning was much the same.
Vikeonabike
CC Neighbourhood Police Constable
- Location
- Bourne, Lincolnshire
As many of you know this is a subject close to my heart and something I have been trying to get going with my constabulary for a couple of years. This Document was aimed at each individual constabulary to aid them in training their officers on bikes. The information involved is more than just how to ride safely on the road.
However the press have got thier teeth into it and the spinless numpties at ACPO have suddenly backed down.
I spent 3 weeks in a great deal of pain after a bike accident whilst chasing somebody. I lay the blame totally at the feet of the constabulary as I had no training (fast dismount) and ended up wih broken ribs.
Myself and a colleague were just beginning o make some ground towards training and properly equipping cyclists on my force. So this has really pi$$ed me off, the timing couldn't be worse.
However the press have got thier teeth into it and the spinless numpties at ACPO have suddenly backed down.
I spent 3 weeks in a great deal of pain after a bike accident whilst chasing somebody. I lay the blame totally at the feet of the constabulary as I had no training (fast dismount) and ended up wih broken ribs.
Myself and a colleague were just beginning o make some ground towards training and properly equipping cyclists on my force. So this has really pi$$ed me off, the timing couldn't be worse.
Vikeonabike
CC Neighbourhood Police Constable
- Location
- Bourne, Lincolnshire
User76 said:So, if you couldn't do it, why pick then to try? Numpty
possibly because saying to a member of the public "I know they've just punched you in the face but I'm not trained to chase them on my bike so I'll just have to let them go" wasn't really an option. But I may consider it in the future.
Numpty is what I felt like though, espeacially when I could hear the CCTV operator trying to do a welfare check on me whilst laughing, lots!
Auntie Helen
Ich bin Powerfrau!
- Location
- 47906 Kempen, Germany
The Police do get quite a bit of cycle training as the cycle training company I work for often do training for them (Bikeability Level 3).
Vikeonabike
CC Neighbourhood Police Constable
- Location
- Bourne, Lincolnshire
Auntie Helen said:
Auntie H
depends on the constabulary.
I think we may have sent a number of PCSO's to be trained up as instructors. However nothing ever materialised when they came back due mostly to lack of support from the "Driving School" who were in charge of it.
WeeE
New Member
- Location
- Glasgow in Scotland
Bike police are both more cost-effective and more effective at policing, in many built-up areas. It's a great advance.
You'd think an "alliance" of "taxpayers" would be all in favour of cycle police being well trained, then, wouldn't you?
I can't imagine what it must be like to try to pull over a white-van or a truck for dangerous driving, if you're on a bike yourself; and you surely need to be very familiar with all the footways and cut-throughs possible to a pedestrian, so that you can give chase if need be; and you need to know how to get through snarled-up traffic quickly and safely at speed, to get to the scene of a road-traffic incident. Just a few good reasons for a manual.
The whole complaint is a carefully-orchestrated propaganda drive by some of the 13 paid employees of the private company calling itself Taxpayers Alliance - "partners" of the Drivers Alliance which is the same outfit under a more accurate hat.
The TPA, for anyone who still doesn't know, is NOT an alliance and is not a group of taxpayers. It's a limited company of professional far-right lobbyists, whose chief exec doesn't even pay UK tax, and which is wholly funded by the road-construction, haulage and car-manufacturing industries.
The more modal share claimed by cycling and walking, the more business these stand to lose - in road construction, if the government does what it says it intends, that should mean billions less in contracts and in public subsidy. They are fighting tooth and nail to firmly fix "acrive travel" as looney, trivial & antisocial in the minds of the public.
You'd think an "alliance" of "taxpayers" would be all in favour of cycle police being well trained, then, wouldn't you?
I can't imagine what it must be like to try to pull over a white-van or a truck for dangerous driving, if you're on a bike yourself; and you surely need to be very familiar with all the footways and cut-throughs possible to a pedestrian, so that you can give chase if need be; and you need to know how to get through snarled-up traffic quickly and safely at speed, to get to the scene of a road-traffic incident. Just a few good reasons for a manual.
The whole complaint is a carefully-orchestrated propaganda drive by some of the 13 paid employees of the private company calling itself Taxpayers Alliance - "partners" of the Drivers Alliance which is the same outfit under a more accurate hat.
The TPA, for anyone who still doesn't know, is NOT an alliance and is not a group of taxpayers. It's a limited company of professional far-right lobbyists, whose chief exec doesn't even pay UK tax, and which is wholly funded by the road-construction, haulage and car-manufacturing industries.
The more modal share claimed by cycling and walking, the more business these stand to lose - in road construction, if the government does what it says it intends, that should mean billions less in contracts and in public subsidy. They are fighting tooth and nail to firmly fix "acrive travel" as looney, trivial & antisocial in the minds of the public.
Vikeonabike
CC Neighbourhood Police Constable
- Location
- Bourne, Lincolnshire
Have e-mailed the journalist at The Sun and suggested that he attend a police cycling course.....Obviously the answer will be NO.....doubt he could actually get on a bike anyway!
Cubist
Still wavin'
- Location
- Ovver 'thill
We insist all staff who ride bikes are trained to Bikeability Level 2. The council are happy to do it for free as a partnership initiative. They offer Level 3 free to anyone who feel confident enough to try it.
Jiggerypokery
Rather than ridicule a PCSO for asking if the bike is yours, next time thank him for checking. After all, if your bike was stolen you'd want them to look for it wouldn't you. Are you telling me that no stolen bikes end up in the hands of lycra wearers? . Think your logic through and then ask yourself whether your smug bullshit actually makes you look any better.
It's easy to carp and criticise from the sidelines. If you can do any better sign up as a Special and show us how it's done......
Jiggerypokery
Rather than ridicule a PCSO for asking if the bike is yours, next time thank him for checking. After all, if your bike was stolen you'd want them to look for it wouldn't you. Are you telling me that no stolen bikes end up in the hands of lycra wearers? . Think your logic through and then ask yourself whether your smug bullshit actually makes you look any better.
It's easy to carp and criticise from the sidelines. If you can do any better sign up as a Special and show us how it's done......
summerdays
Cycling in the sun
- Location
- Bristol
Cubist said:
Why not insist on Level 3 for all staff riding bikes - unless your patch is all quiet roads?
Cubist
Still wavin'
- Location
- Ovver 'thill
You've got to draw the line somewhere. All staff are encouraged to go to Level 3, but the Risk Assessment is satisfied by L2.summerdays said:
