Police fining cyclist for breaking the law..

[Angelfishsolo]

TBH, I have never seen what the issue that people have with waiting at a red light.

You are on a road, you should follow the rules of the road. It might cost you 30 seconds, big frigging deal.

To me this is like saying shoplifting is okay under certain circumstances. It's not.
It's not a safety issue, it's about showing respect and responsibility to society and I do get annoyed at other cyclists who jump the lights as I immediately assume they are either an arrogant prick or a mentally subnormal person.

Sorry, got a bit angry there but it makes me angry.

 

[lukesdad]

Sorry, didn't mean to get so..er..well you know.

I'm just a bit old fashioned when it comes to this particular issue.

Ah no worries been called both in my time, by the same person . Oops better go here she comes now with a cuppa........

 

[apollo179]

TBH, I have never seen what the issue that people have with waiting at a red light.

You are on a road, you should follow the rules of the road. It might cost you 30 seconds, big frigging deal.

To me this is like saying shoplifting is okay under certain circumstances. It's not.
It's not a safety issue, it's about showing respect and responsibility to society and I do get annoyed at other cyclists who jump the lights as I immediately assume they are either an arrogant prick or a mentally subnormal person.

Sorry, got a bit angry there but it makes me angry.

Ouch.
Difficult choice - arrogant prick or a mentally subnormal person.
But that is half the problem with the rlj that it turns a large number of otherwise law abiding and socially responsible people into arrogant prick or a mentally subnormal persons - which i regards as the unfortunate outcome of an imperfect approach to policing cyclists.

 

[Angelfishsolo]

Ouch.
Difficult choice - arrogant prick or a mentally subnormal person.
But that is half the problem with the rlj that it turns a large number of otherwise law abiding and socially responsible people into arrogant prick or a mentally subnormal persons - which i regards as the unfortunate outcome of an imperfect approach to policing cyclists.

You could of course choose to stop at the lights.

 

[MissTillyFlop]

Well, I think that you should have to register to ride a bike on the road and the bike should have some sort of chip in it which will register that you have gone through a red light and you will get a £60 fine like everyone else who does it.

It sounds like some crazy scheme, but with things like assisted driving round the corner, and current insurance companies using pay how you drive tracking systems to judge the risk of a driver, I don't think it's that far fetched.

 

[MissTillyFlop]

I would say that more than 51% of cyclists dont even realise that there is legally anything wrong with rljing on a bike , let alone see anything wrong with it.

Ignorance is no defence.

 

[apollo179]

You could of course choose to stop at the lights.

I do most of the time.

 

[MissTillyFlop]

[QUOTE 1512120"]
Fortunately there's no chance of this happening, for many reasons. Including-

-Bikes aren't solely road vehicles
-It's financially and logistically impossible. We can't even get it right with cars
-Cycle use would halve overnight, and the government don't want that
[/quote]

In London, at least, there are CCTV cameras at most traffic lights, so if do you do jump it, then it's a TS10 for you and I think that there should be some scheme for identifying cyclists so they can be penalised for breaking the rules and so that previous misdemeanours can be taken into account when deciding the penalty.

I have been fined for stopping in a hatched area on my bike. I did it, I got the fine, I was wrong, I paid up and learned my lesson. I didn't know you couldn't stop in a hatched area, but I should have found out before I got on my bike. I also had to attend a cycling course.

A five year old knows that red means stop. If you don't you shouldn't be allowed out, never mind on a bicycle.

 

[apollo179]

Ignorance is no defence.

Hi Tilly flop.
this has been responded to and discussed at length over the preceeding pages so please forgive me if i cba to go through it all again but if you have an original point i would be most willing to reply.

 

[Angelfishsolo]

In London, at least, there are CCTV cameras at most traffic lights, so if do you do jump it, then it's a TS10 for you and I think that there should be some scheme for identifying cyclists so they can be penalised for breaking the rules and so that previous misdemeanours can be taken into account when deciding the penalty.

I have been fined for stopping in a hatched area on my bike. I did it, I got the fine, I was wrong, I paid up and learned my lesson. I didn't know you couldn't stop in a hatched area, but I should have found out before I got on my bike. I also had to attend a cycling course.

A five year old knows that red means stop. If you don't you shouldn't be allowed out, never mind on a bicycle.

Amen to that

 

[Banjo]

In some USA cities right turning cyclists (equivalent to left turners in uk) are allowed to go through red lights provided no peds crossing.

This is done in the interest of safety so they arent turning with impatient drivers trying to pass on the turn.

It does make my blood boil to see cyclists weaving through peds on a crossing or pavement though.

Sorry if this has allready been covered, its a long thread now.

 

[MissTillyFlop]

Hi Tilly flop.
this has been responded to and discussed at length over the preceeding pages so please forgive me if i cba to go through it all again but if you have an original point i would be most willing to reply.

Hahaha - yup found it now in the eleventy-seven page thread. Yup you're right it's most definitely been covered...

 

[apollo179]

Hahaha - yup found it now in the eleventy-seven page thread. Yup you're right it's most definitely been covered...

Amen to that

 

[gaz]

In London, at least, there are CCTV cameras at most traffic lights, so if do you do jump it, then it's a TS10 for you and I think that there should be some scheme for identifying cyclists so they can be penalised for breaking the rules and so that previous misdemeanours can be taken into account when deciding the penalty.

I have been fined for stopping in a hatched area on my bike. I did it, I got the fine, I was wrong, I paid up and learned my lesson. I didn't know you couldn't stop in a hatched area, but I should have found out before I got on my bike. I also had to attend a cycling course.

A five year old knows that red means stop. If you don't you shouldn't be allowed out, never mind on a bicycle.

You didn't know you coulnt stop in a hatched area? What did you think it meant? Did you not read the highway code before you took to the road?

 

[wiggydiggy]

You didn't know you coulnt stop in a hatched area? What did you think it meant? Did you not read the highway code before you took to the road?

*Devils Advocate*

No because it wasnt a legal requirement for a cyclist to do so

*Walks off whistling*

PS I used to like reading it when I was little on long car journeys