Police fining cyclist for breaking the law..

[Angelfishsolo]

Where i have ascertained to my own satisfaction that is is safe (to me and everyone else) i think its ok because i can see no harm , i would not do it where i thought it was going to do any harm.
Presumably you see no harm in yourself breaking the pedal reflector law.

So why not motorbikes, why not cars?

 

[apollo179]

So you have moved from a position of self proclaimed ignorance to willfull disobediance. I notice the police are not stopping cyclists for not having pedal reflectors but are for RLJing. That must tell you something?

Yes.
I notice that apart from this task force initiative the police do not stop cyclists for rlj.
That must tell you something?

 

[Angelfishsolo]

Yes.
I notice that apart from this task force initiative the police do not stop cyclists for rlj.
That must tell you something?

It does. That the police are woefully understaffed. Shame on you for taking advantage of the fact.

 

[apollo179]

It does. That the police are woefully understaffed. Shame on you for taking advantage of the fact.

And what does it tell you that the police are not stopping cyclists for pedal reflectors ?

 

[Angelfishsolo]

And what does it tell you that the police are not stopping cyclists for pedal reflectors ?

It is becoming (if not has already become an arcane law). As long as a bike it suitably lit I doubt very much that a case would ever reach court.

Now why do you think RLJing is OK for cyclists but nor for motorbikes or cars?

 

[apollo179]

It is becoming (if not has already become an arcane law). As long as a bike it suitably lit I doubt very much that a case would ever reach court.

Now why do you think RLJing is OK for cyclists but nor for motorbikes or cars?

What happened to ""its against the law therefore its wrong".
So is it ok to break this pedal reflector law ?

 

[Angelfishsolo]

What happened to ""its against the law therefore its wrong".
So is it ok to break this pedal reflector law ?

Did I say that? I'm pretty sure I did not. Now please answer the question put to you.

 

[apollo179]

Did I say that? I'm pretty sure I did not. Now please answer the question put to you.

You said :
"Red Light jumping is against the law thus it is wrong. "
I am considering my reply to your motorcycle inquiry - be assured that i will reply in due course..

 

[Angelfishsolo]

You said :
"Red Light jumping is against the law thus it is wrong. "
I am considering my reply to your motorcycle inquiry - be assured that i will reply in due course..

Yes and have I ever changed that position?

 

[apollo179]

Yes and have I ever changed that position?

Well your previous reply (the arcane law one) did seem rather equivocal.
That aside - is it ok to break the pedal reflector law ?

 

[Mad at urage]

I used to get stopped for having a flashing rear light (back when they were not legal) . Conversations such as :

PO: "That flashing light is illegal you know"
Me: "Yes officer, but it got me noticed didn't it?"
PO: "You should have a constant light, that light is illegal"
Me: "I have a British Standard constant light, it is not as noticable as the flashing light though"
PO: "Where?"
Me: "There, on the rack. You didn't notice that though, but you did notice the flashing light"
PO: "...."
Me: "I'll be on my way then, right?"

Were fairly common. Then they changed the arcane law.

 

[twobiker]

If I rode in Cuban heels you would not see my reflectors, if I had any that is, so therefore you would have to make certain kinds of footwear illeal on a bike as well, can of worms.....

 

[MissTillyFlop]

I have genuinely tried to but pedal reflectors for my spd pedals, but shops tell me it's a pointless waste of time.

If it's a legal requirement, they should be easier to get hold of.

Just phoned cyclesurgery and they told me it wasn't a legal requirement - so shops selling bikes don't even know the law.

 

[GrumpyGregry]

As I've said elsewhere.....

If plod stop me for not having pedal reflectors on the two of the fleet that don't currently have them, almost certainly never going to happen where I live, I won't plead ignorance. I won't try a smart arsed argument to show the law is an ass. I won't yeah but no but yeah but.... I'll take what is coming to me. After I've pointed at the multiple rear lights that I have fitted and lit up day and night on my bikes.

Not having pedal (or rear) reflectors is illegal. So is RLJ'ing. So is speeding. My two pet bugbears. Not having reflectors is a technical offence and one which does not put others at risk if, in other respects, your bike and bike riding is legal.

RLJ'ing is unexpected. Unexpected behaviour in a shared road space is inconsiderate, selfish, uncivilised and anti-social. All of which adds up to a big heap of stupid. So there you have it...

...RLJ'ing is stupid. Speeding is stupid. Both are stupid in a way, in a way far, far beyond, that stupid which having no pedal reflectors can ever be. Hence few rational folk give a monkey's about pedal reflectors.

 

[Angelfishsolo]

Well your previous reply (the arcane law one) did seem rather equivocal.
That aside - is it ok to break the pedal reflector law ?

Please answer the question you were asked Apollo.