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benb

Evidence based cyclist
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Epsom
So are all SPD and other clipless pedals illegal? If so, why are they allowed to be sold?
 

Twigman

New Member
So are all SPD and other clipless pedals illegal? If so, why are they allowed to be sold?
As I posted in the reflector thread
You can get a reflector kit for Shimano clipless pedals
Shimano SM-PD58
It fits PD-7810/PD-7800/PD-7750/PD-6700/PD-6620/PD-6610/ PD-5700/PD-5610/PD-5600/PD-R670/PD-R600/PD-R540

http://techdocs.shim...69830706616.pdf
 

dellzeqq

pre-talced and mighty
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there's no requirement for racing bikes. And the horrible looking reflector kit is no good for 7900s and no earthly use for 7700s, or , for that matter, XTs. And when it comes to Crank Brothers or Speedplays.......
 

girovago

New Member
So are all SPD and other clipless pedals illegal?


No.


If so, why are they allowed to be sold?

It's possible to buy all manner of vehicle accessories or equipment which, if used on a road, would infringe the law. It's up to you, as the rider/driver, to ensure that you comply with the legislation relative to your vehicle.

Secondly, not all pedals sold will be used where reflectors are required.

And it's unlikely in the extreme that anyone will ever be prosecuted for this (or ever has been) so I'm not worried that none of my bikes has pedal reflectors. Just the other day I was in my local bike shop when a cop was in having a puncture repaired on his police issue Trek, and guess what? .. his pedals had no reflectors on them. Next time I see one I'll take a photo and post it here.
 

rowan 46

Über Member
Location
birmingham
Does this forum ever argue about anything other than RLJing?

It is just so tedious.

People defending RLJing are as much a scourge ob society as those defending the actionms of the rioters from a couple of weeks ago.
And there are way too many of them for my liking.

wow good rant mellow.gif
 

rowan 46

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If anybody wants to jump a red light,let them get on with it,but can I have your bike if you get squished fiets870.gif

are you sure you want it
 

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So are all SPD and other clipless pedals illegal? If so, why are they allowed to be sold?

If you don't use them at night, then no law broken.
 

gaz

Cycle Camera TV
Location
South Croydon
I did make a statement as to why I think it is stupid. you dismissed it as weak.

Imagine if you got knocked off a bike after dark, with lights on, lots of light for that matter and no reflectors, car driver at fault and it goes to court for damages or even a prosecution for driving without due care etc and some smart ass barrister claims contributory negligence on your part as you didn't comply with the laws.

a stronger argument this time. or is it still weak according to the Gospel of Gaz :biggrin:

Much better
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But my better paid barrister/solicitor could easily counter argue that point :smile:
 

Unclejohnsson

Active Member
.. Contributory negligence, originally a maritime principle, is designed to reduce damages by a degree relative to the claimants contribution to the accident. You may still win if you suffer brain damage following being knocked off by a car but damages are reduced because you weren't wearing a BS helmet.

UJ
LL.B.
 

subaqua

What’s the point
Location
Leytonstone
Much better
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But my better paid barrister/solicitor could easily counter argue that point :smile:


depends if its a civil case and he has a top notch barrister too. to me the risk doesn't outweigh any benefits ( are there any benefits of no reflectors) so they stay on the bikes. regardless of them being a legal requirement.

whats the old advert strap line " be safee be SEEN" anything thats going to help that one is goodthing.
 

gaz

Cycle Camera TV
Location
South Croydon
depends if its a civil case and he has a top notch barrister too. to me the risk doesn't outweigh any benefits ( are there any benefits of no reflectors) so they stay on the bikes. regardless of them being a legal requirement.

whats the old advert strap line " be safee be SEEN" anything thats going to help that one is goodthing.

And this is the problem. around 80% of clip in pedals don't come with pedal reflectors and it's hard to get hold of some which don't affect how the pedal works. We aren't removing them, we just don't have them.
 

benb

Evidence based cyclist
Location
Epsom
And this is the problem. around 80% of clip in pedals don't come with pedal reflectors and it's hard to get hold of some which don't affect how the pedal works. We aren't removing them, we just don't have them.

Quite. I don't think I would bother removing reflectors from pedals, but I'm also not going to spend a lot of effort trying to retro-fit them, when I'm lit up like a christmas tree, and have plenty of reflective elements on anyway.

I would be amazed if anyone who was otherwise well lit, had ever been nicked for this offence.
 

GrumpyGregry

Here for rides.
Quite. I don't think I would bother removing reflectors from pedals, but I'm also not going to spend a lot of effort trying to retro-fit them, when I'm lit up like a christmas tree, and have plenty of reflective elements on anyway.

I would be amazed if anyone who was otherwise well lit, had ever been nicked for this offence.

Quite.

Though I would be amazed if anyone had ever been nicked for this offence.
 
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