Pointless & impractical vehicles

[Reynard]

Sadly a real vehicle, not even photoshoppped, or 'AI'!!

A friend of mine has one. Uses it to compete in trials.

 

[presta]

Well the original cars had to be* so I would assume so.

* All 'Le Mans' cars had to be not only legal but road registered too as the roads were only closed for the race, they also had to carry a spare wheel and have 'luggage space'. Even the Ford GT40 had 'luggage space' although they pushed the regulations to the limit with where they put it (2 trays either side of the gearbox that also helped with aerodynamics with the 'spare' wheel in between)

So you don't think the Construction & Use Regulations have changed at all in the last 70 years then? These are new cars, they have to meet the regulations in force today, not the ones from when the original cars were built. Will they meet current emissions standards without modification?

 

[Drago]

So you don't think the Construction & Use Regulations have changed at all in the last 70 years then? These are new cars, they have to meet the regulations in force today, not the ones from when the original cars were built. Will they meet current emissions standards without modification?

New cars like the continuation D types, "new" AM DB5's, etc, are usually not road legal or road registered for the reasons you describe.

Owners with sufficient cash may in some cases be able to get one through SVA.

 

[Dadam]

Well the original cars had to be* so I would assume so.

* All 'Le Mans' cars had to be not only legal but road registered too as the roads were only closed for the race, they also had to carry a spare wheel and have 'luggage space'. Even the Ford GT40 had 'luggage space' although they pushed the regulations to the limit with where they put it (2 trays either side of the gearbox that also helped with aerodynamics with the 'spare' wheel in between)

The chances of one of those D type continuation cars passing type approval or IVA in 2024 are nil. Crash protection, emissions, lighting, seatbelts. Have a look down the 60 items on pages 30-32 here and imagine how many of those it might pass. Not very many I suspect.

They're for people with extremely deep pockets and will be locked away in private collections and some of them, very occasionally, trailered to tracks.

 

[Profpointy]

Well the original cars had to be* so I would assume so.

* All 'Le Mans' cars had to be not only legal but road registered too as the roads were only closed for the race, they also had to carry a spare wheel and have 'luggage space'. Even the Ford GT40 had 'luggage space' although they pushed the regulations to the limit with where they put it (2 trays either side of the gearbox that also helped with aerodynamics with the 'spare' wheel in between)

The originals had to comply with the rules at the time. A "new" D type or whatever has to comply with today's rules to be road legal

 

[FishFright]

The originals had to comply with the rules at the time. A "new" D type or whatever has to comply with today's rules to be road legal

That's the trick with a " continuation " , they don't have to comply with modern rules . A whole new D type would have to of course but these collector car things don't as they are essentially an old car made with new parts.

 

[raleighnut]

The originals had to comply with the rules at the time. A "new" D type or whatever has to comply with today's rules to be road legal

Yep

 

[raleighnut]

So you don't think the Construction & Use Regulations have changed at all in the last 70 years then? These are new cars, they have to meet the regulations in force today, not the ones from when the original cars were built. Will they meet current emissions standards without modification?

New cars like the continuation D types, "new" AM DB5's, etc, are usually not road legal or road registered for the reasons you describe.

Owners with sufficient cash may in some cases be able to get one through SVA.

As @FishFright posted they are classed as a continuation so the modern tests do not apply as they would for a 'new' model of car, there's a guy in Wales building 'new' Ford Escorts from scratch.

 

[Drago]

The new Ford Escagos are scraping by on the small volume regs which exempts them from a lot of crash testing etc. That's why it's been farmed out because Ford themselves sell too many cars to utilise that loophole.

It has modern lotus sourced engines so meets current emissions standards.

 

[simongt]

The new style beetle,

I was a Beetle fan for years, owning two in my time. Never took to the 'new style' Beetle at all.

 

[Profpointy]

As @FishFright posted they are classed as a continuation so the modern tests do not apply as they would for a 'new' model of car, there's a guy in Wales building 'new' Ford Escorts from scratch.

Continuing to make a now non-compliant vehicle doesn't exempt it from current regs if you want it to be road legal.

I believe there are some concessions for very low volume producers and kit cars, regarding expensive things like crash tests but it still must be road legal according to current rules and comply with modern emissions regs and so on.

Somewhat related but there was a big hoo ha in the very expensive classic car world where owners were having to prove the authenticity of their million quid historic Ferraris and Bugattis and so on; it having become financially worthwhile to "rebuild" a car based on having an extant chassis plate and a gearbox. Potentially someone else had rebuild "the same" car around a logbook and the rear light cluster so to speak. "trigger's broom" rebuilds were getting a lot of scrutiny and some hitherto very valuable cars, better described as "continuations" would no longer be road legal without some solid proof of their provenance, with "points" allocated according to the proportion of original parts present else it would get a Q plate (or whatever) and have to pass current kit car regs

I think the clamp down was rather prompted by rumours that of the six £10million racing such-and-such's made, 8 had survived !

 

[fossyant]

Today's pointless car. Let's take a supercar down wet, greasy and muddy country lanes with a poor performance driver.

 

[Drago]

Looks like he got in a tank slapper coming off that corner. Lucky hismidnt take an innocent bystander with him.

 

[StuAff]

There are two road-legal Porsche 917s (the second used the first as a precedent), and Walter Wolf (owner of his own F1 team) had Kremer Racing build him a road-legal 935…

 

[classic33]

Today's pointless car. Let's take a supercar down wet, greasy and muddy country lanes with a poor performance driver.

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That wall is going to take some rebuilding.