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RiflemanSmith

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Wow this forum is a joke some times.
I don't really care about poduim girls, I think there are far more important things to address.
What I find really pathetic is that picture being removed!
Yes that picture had no place in this thread, but why did it get removed?
Some one found it offensive and reported it?
Was it porn?
No it was a woman in a dress ffs.
Removing pictures or post when there is nothing actually wrong with them just because some one is offended is not the way to go.
"Just because some thing offends you doesn't make you right" Stephen Fry.
 

Rohloff_Brompton_Rider

Formerly just_fixed
^ he put what I meant in a better way.
 

Spinney

Bimbleur extraordinaire
Location
Back up north
Wow this forum is a joke some times.
I don't really care about poduim girls, I think there are far more important things to address....

Yes, there are - poverty, disease, etc.

But this is still important*, and SO easy to change, so why not do it?

* I presume from your forum name that you are male, and so may not have noticed or realise the effect that the objectification of women can have on other women and girls. However, many posters on here have demonstrated that being male does not have to lead to being oblivious to these attitudes. Chapeau to those who can see beyond the tits.
 

Rohloff_Brompton_Rider

Formerly just_fixed
IMO the forum has changed and there does seem to be more morals police on here, no wonder a lot of the old crew have moved o to pastures new.

The photos were not offensive or illegal and were put up as a bit of light relief and IMO the poster had no intentions to offend.

For the ones who have taken a "lets stand up for the poor exploited women", seriously you really haven't got a clue. I dated a few podium girls and have been married to one for over 20 years, she finds your patronising old fashioned views ridiculous.

She has even said she loved rinsing you, you poor saps...:smile:


Edit: FYI quite a lot of these "poor exploited souls" are highly professional women, midwives, solicitors, nurses, manageress' who just happen to be beautiful and EXPLOIT MEN!!!!
 

Flying_Monkey

Recyclist
Location
Odawa
IMO the forum has changed and there does seem to be more morals police on here, no wonder a lot of the old crew have moved o to pastures new.

I've been here since the beginning. I haven't noticed any terrible new oppressive regime, quite the contrary, it's really very reasonable and well-managed here and manages on the whole to keep the balance between a welcoming atmosphere and a free-for-all.

For the ones who have taken a "lets stand up for the poor exploited women", seriously you really haven't got a clue. I dated a few podium girls and have been married to one for over 20 years, she finds your patronising old fashioned views ridiculous.

She has even said she loved rinsing you, you poor saps...:smile:

I know a woman, I am even married to one. She thinks you're wrong. Case closed. :thumbsup:
 

Spinney

Bimbleur extraordinaire
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Back up north
For the ones who have taken a "lets stand up for the poor exploited women", seriously you really haven't got a clue. I dated a few podium girls and have been married to one for over 20 years, she finds your patronising old fashioned views ridiculous.

She has even said she loved rinsing you, you poor saps...:smile:

Have you STILL not got the point that it isn't about the podium girls themselves, it is about the message that is being sent to other women, of all ages?

If women want to be podium girls/porn stars/whatever, it is entirely up to them. However it would be nice if they took those decisions in a world where they were not brainwashed into thinking from childhood that women's main role is to look pretty for the delectation of men.

Edit: and before anyone says this - no, not all women are brainwashed by this kind of thing. But quite a lot are. If you know someone who isn't, great! But that doesn't mean there isn't a problem.
 

Rohloff_Brompton_Rider

Formerly just_fixed
Have you STILL not got the point that it isn't about the podium girls themselves, it is about the message that is being sent to other women, of all ages?

If women want to be podium girls/porn stars/whatever, it is entirely up to them. However it would be nice if they took those decisions in a world where they were not brainwashed into thinking from childhood that women's main role is to look pretty for the delectation of men.
Where did you grow up? Sounds oppressive and a bit of a fantasy land.
 

thom

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Location
The Borough
Wow this forum is a joke some times.
I don't really care about poduim girls, I think there are far more important things to address.
What I find really pathetic is that picture being removed!
Yes that picture had no place in this thread, but why did it get removed?
Some one found it offensive and reported it?
Was it porn?
No it was a woman in a dress ffs.
Removing pictures or post when there is nothing actually wrong with them just because some one is offended is not the way to go.
"Just because some thing offends you doesn't make you right" Stephen Fry.
That picture was offensive in conjunction with the comment on the post.
The essence of the comment is that the commenter likes looking at the breasts of the woman.
The picture itself isn't offensive, the comment with it encourages the view that the particular woman should be thought of in terms of her breasts and that cyclechat is a place where it is acceptable to do so.
Without the picture, the poster states his personal opinion of podium girls but at least we aren't implicitly endorsing cyclechat as an environment where people should indulge that representation.
 

Radchenister

Veteran
Location
Avon
Sit wherever you like and argue your case like an adult, Rad.
Alternative views are fine, but posting provocative pictures is what has raised hackles on this thread.

Agree on the picture post being a tad troll like but don't really feel the need to enter into the 'are you for or against' argument heavily thanks anyway - oh go on then, maybe just a little though ;).

Consenting adults can opt in or out as they see fit IMO - my other half has done the hosting role at a golf event in years gone by. This was after considering it seriously when asked by my boss of the time; we found it ironic, as she has exactly the same qualifications as me (and my boss) and at the time worked for a company that was 1st division compared to the middle league crew I was with.

The prize giving involved some of the same kissy kissy rigmarole but this was just part of that day out - it's not quite the photo staged cycle podium thing, with people dressed in flimsy dresses and tight Lycra but it wasn't far off it. After a while considering it, neither of us had an issue with the role and we did discuss whether it was acceptable at the time (maybe year 2000ish).

It actually proved to be a pleasant day out, there were a few old school misogynists who treated my other half like the 'office girl' (she was hosting with two male directors and the young female office manager lady on the day - the rest of us were playing golf); people knew that some of the old guard were a little disrespectful and just thought the perpetrators were stupid, as educated ladies (is that a misogynist term?) they were clearly above that behaviour.

The majority of people on the day were decent and sociable, making for an on the whole positive experience - we did have a problem with the 'girls' not being allowed in a certain players bar in that particular club house though, so I and a few others boycotted that locality (which was scruffy anyway) and left a few old farts to revel in their stink pit, while the younger crowd all sat in sunshine in the lounge bar.

If my daughter was inclined to do the role (she's 6 at the mo', so it's highly unlikely it will survive as a job by the time the opportunity arose, as the default PC position will have eradicated it by then), I would hope my partner and I will have educated her to a level where she could decide for herself and spot those amongst the proceedings who were potential 'offenders', being able to handle the situation appropriately.

Where do I stand now? Can't stand golf and corporate events and would rather go fishing or cycling ;) !

Seriously though, why not ask the podium girls (and boys) please and see if they'd rather not do it - if they'd rather not and are feeling obliged for whatever reason, then consider ruling it out.

Also, if someone can demonstrate that the implications of them being there are truly detrimental to society and not just a debatable opinion on a forum, then I'm happy to listen.

Lastly, in the interests of harmony and karma, if it really is going to cause arguments, then please remove them if you like, makes not a jot of difference to me.
 
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