Try and stay on topic, there's a good chap.
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Yeah, that's really relevant. I'm glad you posted that.
I've never seen her, but it isn't necessary to divide women into good and bad role models. I assume her function is the same as Vorderman's, which is essential to the game itself and isn't reducible to eye-candy for male viewers and contestants. I think it's fair to say that Vorderman occupied an ambiguous position when it comes to female empowerment, but then she was always treading a difficult line. We wouldn't be having this conversation about a man doing the same job. I just hope that this Riley woman doesn't end up advertising F**k Me It's Margarine.
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I can't help it. I'm an incurable optimist.
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Speak for yourself ducky ....
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To be fair La Vorderman (former rear of the year) and I may be wrong here, didn't seem to let her intellect get in the way of herr physical talents and Rachel Riley seems happy to put hers too the fore. Whether that's letting the side down is not for me to decide.
BTW, you've really got it in for Margerine haven't you
BTW, you've really got it in for Margerine haven't you
BTW, you've really got it in for Margerine haven't you
Yes. It's a disgrace.
Are BikeRader members more enlightened than Cyclechat folks ?
http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/vie...d=53e4b841ec436115cecbc14e28ff9ebe&start=2720
http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/vie...d=53e4b841ec436115cecbc14e28ff9ebe&start=2720
That just goes to the homepage for me. Perhaps you could quote the relevant bit?
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The vast majority of the entertainment industry has a big throbbing vein of sexuality running through it. If the women doing countdown looked liked Sharon and Tracey, how long would they last in the job ???
the eye candy bit is there to hold the interest when the subject itself is less than so....which is very much the case for countdown
To deny the value of this in the name of empowerment is to run against hundreds of thousands of years of evolution. We are programmed by nature to like looking at people who have 'healthy genes'
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The vast majority of the entertainment industry has a big throbbing vein of sexuality running through it. If the women doing countdown looked liked Sharon and Tracey, how long would they last in the job ???
the eye candy bit is there to hold the interest when the subject itself is less than so....which is very much the case for countdown
To deny the value of this in the name of empowerment is to run against hundreds of thousands of years of evolution. We are programmed by nature to like looking at people who have 'healthy genes'
Is it though?
For whom?
Why?
On topic easily. The same point just taken to an extreme. This dilemma is the same "its their choice, see, when I ask them, they say they want to do it, let us not stand in the way of freedom of decision." Yes they have decided and undoubtedly they have a set of circumstances and backgrounds that means they can easily justify becoming sex workers. However, the fact that they come out with the statement that they don't consider themselves exploited, does not mean they or the deed, is right. David Barry did not think he was being exploited on Lance's team, for many a long year. He and Dede encouraged young David Zabreski to "not be exploited" and use epo. I am sure Barry thought, as he enjoyed his lifestyle and fame, that he was entirely right, right up to the point were somebody told him he had been named by Zabreski and his Sky fell in.
I doubt that 1 in 100 podium girls feels exploited. Good money for a bit of harmless fun. The ones who would, don't do it. The podium girls get paid a premium exactly because of that ratio. Model that back to the sex worker and the same logic applies.
The argument gets straight back to - if in a position to exploit - should you ? Cycle sport has no need to exploit these girls whether they want to do the job (which undoubtedly they do) or not.
You can do better than that.
Huh? It links to the homepage and asks me to login or sign up. I'm not going to sign up, so it would be useful if you could give us a clue as to what the link is about.
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