He refused to hand the can, and contents, over to the police. Meaning they had only the fact that he was drinking from a Fosters can to go on when issuing the fixed penalty.Obviously they can as that's what happened but enforce what exactly? I'm honestly not being obtuse but shouldn't law enforcement be above dealing with twats like this as drinking carrot juice is not an offence.
Back into his own shop?Totally understand that but it's carrot juice in alternative packaging. Clever police would have just moved the nodder on.
Firstly, we only have his word on that.Totally understand that but it's carrot juice in alternative packaging. Clever police would have just moved the nodder on.
Yeah, I get it and I could imagine them being well annoyed when they poured it out. I assume as they know him he's already a pain for them as I'm sure most cops I know would send a total tadger like that away with little doubt what would happen if he tried it again. To be fair, it is good to see the courts supporting the cops for a change even if it's more likely the council they are supporting. I would much prefer the tendency to drop a police assault charge in exchange for a guilty plea for whatever they were being arrested for in the first place stopped and maybe make a difference that way.He refused to hand the can, and contents, over to the police. Meaning they had only the fact that he was drinking from a Fosters can to go on when issuing the fixed penalty.
Yeah, fair enough.Firstly, we only have his word on that.
Second, the police don have drinks testing kits.
Thirdly, under the terms of the no debunking zone the offence is complete when the offender fails to hand over the open alcohol vessel - that it may contain water, arsenic or gravy is neither here nor there. Theres a problem with street drinking in the area, hence the enforceable no drinking zone, and if the hobbies had just walked on by doubtless someone else would have complained about them not taking positive action - that's the whole point of the zone in the first place, a zone for which this chap had himself been very vocal about being introduced.
And finally, hes admitted that he was being "a bit difficult". That was his decision, not the officers.
He pulled the tigers tail, it's entirely his problem if he got to meet its teeth in court, and no one elses, although hes bleating about how unfair it is, blah blah moan.
He accepted the fixed penalty, for drinking in a no drinking area, then tipped the can to prove the contents.Yeah, I get it and I could imagine them being well annoyed when they poured it out. I assume as they know him he's already a pain for them as I'm sure most cops I know would send a total tadger like that away with little doubt what would happen if he tried it again. To be fair, it is good to see the courts supporting the cops for a change even if it's more likely the council they are supporting. I would much prefer the tendency to drop a police assault charge in exchange for a guilty plea for whatever they were being arrested for in the first place stopped and maybe make a difference that way.
Sorry Bazzer. It's worky fine when I click on it.
How do you know he was drinking carrot juice? He refused to hand over the can?Obviously they can as that's what happened but enforce what exactly? I'm honestly not being obtuse but shouldn't law enforcement be above dealing with twats like this as drinking carrot juice is not an offence.
Read the link again, the contents of the can are not in dispute.How do you know he was drinking carrot juice? He refused to hand over the can?
IF he was testing whether they would enforce it and found out they would then he would have been happy to hand over the can? IF it was full of carrot juice.
Maybe it was carrot juice cocktail.....that alone deserves a £8000+ fine