Orbea Gain

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Southernguns

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My bad - I didn't make it clear. Komoot connects to Garmin Connect which in turn connects with Strava. When I return from a ride it syncs to my Garmin then uploads to Strava.
 
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youngoldbloke

youngoldbloke

The older I get, the faster I used to be ...
Another Ebikemotion update (for anyone who wants to risk it?)
Risked it, regretted it. First longish ride since updates, app lost connection with bike numerous times, unable to save what bits it had monitored. I wish they'd sort it out. One step forward, two steps back …. it had been behaving quite well for me.
 

Scaleyback

Veteran
Location
North Yorkshire
I don’t get Strava.
What do they say ? “ If it’s not on Strava it didn’t happen “
That’s self-serving marketing bulls**t isn’t it ?
All my rides are saved on Garmin connect, why would I need Strava ?
It’s a bit like Facebook isn’t it, where you feel the need to share the minutia of your life with the
World ? i.e I rode my bike today for 15.2 miles and it took 1hr 3 mins, I beat my PB by 27 secs etc etc :wacko:
 
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Solom01

Active Member
I'm really sorry, I feel guilty. It works well for me, but on the other hand because of the flakiness of the app I only use it to adjust power levels and to see what the exact charge amount is, I use a Garmin for actual ride monitoring. It does allow me to download maps which the old version didn't. The cadence measurement is still trash, even if I half the amount it shows me spinning at 125 rpm - not even close.
 

Storck

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Location
UK
I'm really sorry, I feel guilty. It works well for me, but on the other hand because of the flakiness of the app I only use it to adjust power levels and to see what the exact charge amount is, I use a Garmin for actual ride monitoring. It does allow me to download maps which the old version didn't. The cadence measurement is still trash, even if I half the amount it shows me spinning at 125 rpm - not even close.

Yeah, all correct in what you write. They should now just keep it simple. Most folks have stand-alone GPS units, stop trying to cover every base, just provide a reliable connect for syncing to the bike.
 

Southernguns

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Location
Uk
Risked it, regretted it. First longish ride since updates, app lost connection with bike numerous times, unable to save what bits it had monitored. I wish they'd sort it out. One step forward, two steps back …. it had been behaving quite well for me.
Mmmm, maybe I wont, update...to me...to you...!
 

NickWi

Guru
Extra Battery, or not as the case may be. Has anyone got one of the new Range Extender batteries yet?

I've just been reading up about the above ( https://www.orbea.com/downloads/products/manual_range_extender_EN.pdf ) and it looks like the battery is a glorified power bank rather than an extra battery, (splitting hairs I know, but there is a difference).

It basically says the Range Extender can't supply enough current to power the motor in its own right and it's job is to just keep the main battery topped up. Fair enough, however the blurb then goes on to say that it can only supply at 2A, the motor can draw up to 9A and therefore there might be times when it can't keep up with the power drain after a period of intensive use the battery may flatten faster than it can be topped up. I presume on rolling terrain the power loss on the ups would be replenished by the top up on the downs, coasting and low power sections, but it does raise a bit of a conern if you're getting to the end of the your ride, the main battery is into the red and you're faced with long uphill slog or into a headwind; both situations where you're likely to be using the higher power settings. It is going to die on you just when you really need it?

Maybe I'm wrong, just being over critical and in practice it'll work seamlessly without any drama, but it'll be interesting to hear from anyone who's got one.

As a separate question, if it is just a glorified power bank (spec 208.8W/h (5.8A) / 36V / Maximum discharge ratio 1.9A), could you use a regular, albeit heavy duty power bank instead? I'm no electical engineer, but I'd be interested to hear from those with a better knowledge of these things than me. At £550 for the genuine artice, that's an expensive power bank. Allowing for buying and power bank & connector and paying for a cable to be made, I'm guessing a specialist could do it a lot cheaper.
 
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youngoldbloke

youngoldbloke

The older I get, the faster I used to be ...
Having read the above I'm even less likely than I was to be spending over £500 on the range extender. More like a ride-time extender if you find yourself having to wait for the battery to be topped up while your chums disappear over the hill.
 

Solom01

Active Member
I'm interested in reading a review on this. For most ebikes that people tend to ride like mopeds all the time it would never work, but for the way most of us ride our Gains using just the lower level (maybe the mid level occasionally) power it may be a good way of keeping the battery topped off in case you wanted to take a longer 100 mile tour. For what it's worth (which isn't much) I've notice that on identical 8 mile rides between my Gain and my other ebike my heart rate tends to be at about 135 or so on the Gain and only 90 or so on my other bike, which is exactly what I was looking for - getting more exercise and a better cycling experience while still having a get out of jail free card if I get too tired out.
 

Storck

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Location
UK
I'm interested in reading a review on this. For most ebikes that people tend to ride like mopeds all the time it would never work, but for the way most of us ride our Gains using just the lower level (maybe the mid level occasionally) power it may be a good way of keeping the battery topped off in case you wanted to take a longer 100 mile tour. For what it's worth (which isn't much) I've notice that on identical 8 mile rides between my Gain and my other ebike my heart rate tends to be at about 135 or so on the Gain and only 90 or so on my other bike, which is exactly what I was looking for - getting more exercise and a better cycling experience while still having a get out of jail free card if I get too tired out.

I must be doing it wrong Sol? My HR is far less when riding the Gain, as opposed to one of my "normal" bikes.
 

CXRAndy

Guru
Location
Lincs
I must be doing it wrong Sol? My HR is far less when riding the Gain, as opposed to one of my "normal" bikes.

My wife isnt puffing and blowing when riding her ebike, although she is much faster than her previous 11 mph average speed
 
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