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Ian H

Ancient randonneur
I saw a Peugeot 504 Coupe pootling through Parisian streets yesterday. I didn't get a photo, but rather like this.
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gbb

Squire
Location
Peterborough
Having driven a lot of pool cars in the 80s through to 2000, a few things struck me (these have all become 'classics...although anything at all from that era are now considered classics)
Fords, Escorts and Orions particually were two a penny. Just ok cars, various aspects of them were annoying but no real outstanding or redeeming features. I never 'got' Ford's. The 1.6 diesel non turbo Orion was undoubtedly the worst car I ever drove.
Vauxhalls, run of the mill for the most part and yet you'd get a 'sleeper' now and then, a 2 ltr Cav with average spec...that went like absolute stink. I was always (but not any longer) a Vauxhall guy.
French cars drove generally lovely, the 1.9TDIs were fairly insane, whether in a Fiat (yes Italian) or Pug ot Citroën. Would I have wished to own any long term...no.
German cars I always felt were over rated, I just never got them. We had a brand new Golf at one stage...horrible drive, really heavy.
Brand new A4 1.8 iirc. Like the Golf, no doubt we'll built but not particually responsive, bland interior...again, I never remotely desired to own one.

Loveliest car ? Saab 9000 high spec, directors car. Wonderful, acceleration put you in the back if the seat.

Why did I always like Vauxhalls I used to ask myself. A good everyman car, gearing was wide and suspension soft, a good all-round comfortable car imho (used to be anyway)
 

Drago

Legendary Member
I saw a Peugeot 504 Coupe pootling through Parisian streets yesterday. I didn't get a photo, but rather like this.
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In the early 70s my Dad had a 504Ti saloon. In its day it was fast, robust and reliable executive scoot, a desirable machine.

My Dad racked it up to some quite serious mileage, 150k or so in a few years, but being an engineer he maintained it diligently and being built at a time when Peugeot made cars from granite and girders instead of spit and Kleenex as they do now, it was in very good order.

Anyway, when the time came to sell it he gave it a haircut. Everyone did that back the more than half a century ago. Even grannies would get someone to wind back the clock before offering a car for sale.

So my dad too it back to 45,000 or so which was plausible for a three year old car. A bloke came to see it and was cock-a-hoop, explaining that he'd looked at several, all lower mileage, and none of them were in anywhere as good a condition as my Dad's. He went off a happy camper and my Dad took his money and bought a new Lancia Beta, with predictably tragic consequences.
 

DRM

Guru
Location
West Yorks
My mates dad had Lancia Beta's god knows why, they used to dissolve quicker than a sugar cube in a pot of Typhoo, his step mum did try to put the Coupe one out of it's misery, being an auto box she put it in drive, then tried to reverse off the drive, straight through the garage door, it survived that but still it dissolved into a heap of rust
 

Gunk

Guru
Location
Oxford
My mates dad had Lancia Beta's god knows why, they used to dissolve quicker than a sugar cube in a pot of Typhoo, his step mum did try to put the Coupe one out of it's misery, being an auto box she put it in drive, then tried to reverse off the drive, straight through the garage door, it survived that but still it dissolved into a heap of rust

I had a similar era Fiat X19, three years old it was completely rotten, rust bubbles everywhere even the roof
 

derrick

The Glue that binds us together.
My mates dad had Lancia Beta's god knows why, they used to dissolve quicker than a sugar cube in a pot of Typhoo, his step mum did try to put the Coupe one out of it's misery, being an auto box she put it in drive, then tried to reverse off the drive, straight through the garage door, it survived that but still it dissolved into a heap of rust

I had a lancia HPE great car apart from the rust. The pic is just to show what it looked like. ^_^
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Saturday 5th

I called at ASDA, in Wakefield, on my way home from TruckFest (Newark-on-Trent)
This entered the car-park just before me

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raleighnut

Legendary Member
I wonder what is under the bonnet that needs a front mount intercooler ? My Impreza had one but that was running 400 odd BHP with methanol….

You can fit a turbo off another car in the Peugeot/Renault lineup with all the electronic gubbins from the donor, I think the 406 came with the 1.9 turbo engine in one of its versions. One of the mechanics at Castles garage in Leicester (Main Pug dealer) put one on his 1.9 GTi but it then handled like a pig, torque steering was a nightmare til he fitted a Quaife 'limited slip' diff so gawd knows what the 'floppier' Cabriolet body would handle like.
 
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