I grew up with fizzy drinks really. My Dad was a lorry driver and amongst other things occasionally made deliveries to a local bottling plant and soft drinks manufacturer. I used to go with him and when I did the people at the warehouse would usually give me crates of soft drinks. On hindsight it is amazing that I am not a diabetic.
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I grew up with fizzy drinks really. My Dad was a lorry driver and amongst other things occasionally made deliveries to a local bottling plant and soft drinks manufacturer. I used to go with him and when I did the people at the warehouse would usually give me crates of soft drinks. On hindsight it is amazing that I am not a diabetic.
Reynard
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Dad's family (his grandfather, IIRC) was involved in soft drinks manufacture, so I wasn't allowed them when I was little as I was always told they were full of nasty chemicals. (Which they are, really, when you think about it.)
When I did eventually have them, I realised fairly quickly that I didn't like them. They make me burp like crazy for one
I'll stick to cups of tea
HMS_Dave
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It isn't like that really. For moderate weight gainers like yourself, maybe. But for those who get morbidly obese, the taste of food really is a secondary or even tertiary prerequisite to their weight gain and hunger. Often people who truly get large are hiding underlying mental issues. Food becomes the emotional control like any other vice be that drugs and alcohol. All can be over done with extreme consequences... This is why some need help as they may not even know why they do it. It is also why you have "enablers" while those obese are no longer mobile. It isn't about feeding them and making them fatter, it's about satisfying their emotional well being, often seeing a remarkable improvement in their moods and the gratification that may bring but then follows shortly by a crash and the cycle repeats.
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OP
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general cycling doesn't burn that many calories - bike are so damn efficient.
OP
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Myfitnesspal.
I lost a fair bit of weight using it - makes calorie counting very easy, or as easy as it can be.
I aimed for 1,500 calories a day, though doubtless my counting was a bit off.
Used in conjunction with my wetherspoons diet - drinking pretty much nothing in the house and avoiding alcohol stocks in the house as for me and I think many that goes hand in hand with gorging on snacks. So kept my drinking to the local pub. Alcoholic drinks can also be counted easily.
You can also enter daily exercise, notably cycling. That will highlight how few calories cycling burns compared to what you can shove down your gullet in 2 minutes in front of the telly.
Ming the Merciless
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Which is abnormal eating, there’s no way you’re going to manage your weight well if that’s the kind of thing that’s typical for you.
Ming the Merciless
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Let us take a 20 year old through the next 30 years. At that age they haven’t yet bought a car, they are fairly active most days. The balance between what they eat and drink and activity levels is fairly balanced and weight stable. Then they settle into a full time job, buy a car, maybe get married. Activity levels decline, but food intake doesn’t. They put on 2.5 lbs a year, barely noticable. Sure there’s a bit more body fat but they look not a lot different to the year before. Roll on 30 years and they’ve put on 75 lbs. That is 5 stone 5 lbs they’ve put on over 30 years.
Lets go back to a single year. Assume it’s 365 days. So daily intake x 365 = 2500 x 365 = 912,500 calories over the year. Now they have put 2.5 lbs on. So the excess is 2.5 * 3,500 = 8750 calories over a year. That translates to (8750 / 365) 24 calories per day, just under 1% of daily intake.
It doesn’t take much for weight to build up over the years given a small imbalance.
BoldonLad
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Indeed. But, some people find it incredibly difficult to do, what to others come naturally.
My eldest daughter has struggled with her weight since her teenage years (now 50).
This actually happened:
One day, some years ago, during a tearful discussion about the latest diet fail, she said "but, I hardly eat anything, and never eat chocolate or sweets". At the time she said this, she was eating a Mars bar!
Ming the Merciless
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Yes denial can be strong with many, and perhaps they believe it’s the blowout meals that put the weight on, rather than the everyday treats such as the mars bar.
If it was that simple nobody would be overweight, nobody would smoke, nobody would be an alcoholic, nobody would have a drug problem, nobody would gamble away their home....but it's not that simple. Some find it difficult and struggle. Not everyone is perfect.
Ming the Merciless
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I am not sure what you are trying to say. A package of Jaffa’s in one go or a couple of pints and crisps after every ride isn’t normal behaviour. I didn’t propose a solution for you. Plus of course a solution depends on whether you see a problem with it, not whether I see a problem with that kind of eating.
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You're lucky, I also presume you don't understand Heroine addiction or Alcoholism, but for some food is the same, my issue is I eat too large a portions, I find it difficult to leave anything on the plate, I think this stems from when I was a child & was always told I couldn't leave the table until everything was eaten, starving children in other countries etc. My wife on the other hand eats far too much sweet stuff along with lack of exercise, again if she opens a 10 pack of Jaffa cakes she cannot just eat 2 or 4, the whole 10 will go.
matticus
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I'm saying that not everyone finds it easy to say no to harmful things even when you know it's harmful. There are many reasons for this.
You seem to be implying that it's purely choice.
Ming the Merciless
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I said nothing about choice. I was just recognising it’s clear why the weight piles on with eating like that. Why you eat like that is a different question which I didn’t attempt to answer.