No helmet

[davidwalton]

Who the **** knows, and who cares - it is what happens and that is what matters.

Go and do some research.

PS You could start by reading this thread.

So as far as you know, the reason could be anything, but who cares

and thanks for the advise

 

[davidwalton]

Probably because it makes cycling less convenient and pleasurable. It doesn't really matter 'why' does it?

Yes, it does matter. How is it less pleasurable to ride with a helmet? and how is it inconvenient?

These are arguments being used against the use of helmets, and as such, they could be manipulated figures to tel a story. Don't know unless you ask.

 

[davidwalton]

Why don't you wear a motorcycle helmet? It would afford you much more protection than a cycle helmet, and frankly your decision not to could hit my pocket when you're being treated for head injury on the NHS.

There is a difference between reasonable and unreasonable. Cycle helmets are designed to enable air to more freely get around your head. Not the case with motorcycle helmets.

 

[Brock]

You're drawing your own line of 'reasonable'. Why do you think that line of yours should be imposed on the rest of us? And why do you think it hasn't been so far?

 

[dodgy]

Rubbish. read what I wrote.

I said I would support any government action. until then you decide.

However, if I was asked to vote on whether I believe ALL should wear a helmet when cycling, I would vote YES

Dave.

 

[Jaded]

On that base, why should motorcyclist wear a helmet?

It does not encroach on my liberty, and not suggesting it does. How can we have one law for Mopeds that find it hard to go as fast as some cyclists, and another for cyclists.

Where is the difference from the perspective of head safety?

Did you read my post earlier?

Nudge the stylus, your record is scratched...

 

[Chris James]

It seems to be more about personal right to choose than about head protection, and to me that is no argument.

As a liberal minded person I find this a bit depressing. You have leapt from making your own view as to what head protection you think is reasonable FOR YOURSELF to wanting to impose your view on the rest of society.

It is the thin end of the wedge. What else would you like to ban?

 

[davidwalton]

I suspect that you view your posts as somehow being profound and getting straight to the nub of the argument. But you are in fact simplifying matters in an almost childish way.

Thats not nice, but expected in this forum.

Yes, a piece of polystyrene will reduce the bruising associated with banging your head on a wall. But equally putting a large mass of thermal insulation on your head while undertaking a high energy aerobic sport will make you hotter and more uncomfortable.

I am one of the most unfit people I know. A sweat loads on the bike, yet I do not find a helmet restricting at all.

Those in favour of compulsion should at least provide some evidence before they intend criminalising a substantial proportion of the cycling populace. You may consider it to be common sense that strapping some polystyrene to your head will reduce injuries but the real life population studies don’t back up your assertion. Not only that, but they show an overall reduction in cycling levels leading to decreased healthiness and earlier death.

Why? I have read the argument for and against before I decided I would wear a helmet. If I think it is the right thing for me, that means I must think it is the right thing period, unless I think I am different (which I don't).

I do not hold with complicating matters. For every report in favour there is a report against, and that is to complicate the issue of helmet use.

 

[davidwalton]

Did you read my post earlier?

Nudge the stylus, your record is scratched...

You never answered that I could see.......Nudge for the answer please

 

[Jaded]

For every report in favour there is a report against, and that is to complicate the issue of helmet use.

So, perhaps you could pay attention to both sides of the argument and step back from the stance of wishing to impose your views on the entire population?

 

[Jaded]

You never answered that I could see.......Nudge for the answer please

No idea what you are talking about.

My post about mopeds vs cycles.

There is no comparison and continuing to compare two entirely different forms of transport to make your case even after the flaws have been pointed out doesn't move us on at all.

 

[davidwalton]

As a liberal minded person I find this a bit depressing. You have leapt from making your own view as to what head protection you think is reasonable FOR YOURSELF to wanting to impose your view on the rest of society.

It is the thin end of the wedge. What else would you like to ban?

If you wish to read between the lines you can. However, I promise I never write anything there.

I have not leapt at all. I concluded that I am not a special case and if I believe a helmet is a good idea for my head, then I must believe it is a good idea for everyone else's.

My view is that I WOULD support government action to make cycle helmets
compulsory. Thats not imposing anything on you. That is me supporting a possible future action.

Instead of telling me I am wrong, trying to put me down, or any other usual comment seen on here, why not try and get me to change my mind.

 

[davidwalton]

No idea what you are talking about.

My post about mopeds vs cycles.

There is no comparison and continuing to compare two entirely different forms of transport to make your case even after the flaws have been pointed out doesn't move us on at all.

No comparison...OK.

Both have 2 wheels.
Both travel at up to 30mph'ish as a general rule.
both have riders open to the same dangers.

the only real difference is the engine.

Difficult to move on when the obvious is called no comparison

 

[Jaded]

Have a think about the rider.

 

[davidwalton]

So, perhaps you could pay attention to both sides of the argument and step back from the stance of wishing to impose your views on the entire population?

Not once have I suggested I would be IMPOSING anything...Again and again I have made it clear that I would support government action to make helmets compulsory. That isn't me imposing, that would be me supporting my beliefs.

You are imposing upon me and my beliefs. HOW DARE YOU!!!