New sophisticated fraud scam
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Aescott
Active Member
Better losing a delivery slot than a few grand
Agreed. Although the few times there have been attempted fraudulent transactions on my card, the credit card company reimbursed us without much ado.
ebikeerwidnes
Guru
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- Z’ha’dum
I used to work in the Technical support part of a big IT Department
so - basically - helping out normal programmers when things got to techny for them - it could get rather weird at time.
One of our responsibilities was security
Anyway - one day the bloke next to me came in and said he had got an email from someone saying how they had heard he was a trustworthy person and they had a problem
well- you know the rest
anyway - he was rather pleased that his reputation as being "a good bloke" and a trustworthy person had spread
really quite proud that so many people thought of him that way
He actually asked us whether we thought it was OK - he was ratehr worried that it might be illegal to take a load of money from this person and hold it in his bank account for a few weeks until this new friend could get things sorted out and get out of the problems he was having in his current country
He was quite serious
he was actually about to reply and tell this bloke that he would be happy to help - but thought he would ask us - more to show off about how his reputation for being trustworthy had spread than actual doubt!!
and this was an intelligent person - he was just a bit focussed on the straight track and tended to not see the context
he was actually getting towards the end of a Maths degree with the Open University at the time
great technician in many ways - but we did have to keep an eye him at times!!!
so it is not just people who are dumb or distracted that fall for these scams!!!
so it is not
Cycleops
Legendary Member
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- Accra, Ghana
I think that shows how people can be bright in an academic kind of way but don't have the 'cred' to spot these scams, maybe from not being exposed to certain aspects of life, or perhaps not being exposed to life at all.
ebikeerwidnes
Guru
- Location
- Z’ha’dum
Yes - this guy was exposed to all sort of bits of life
he just didn't recognise them or learn from them - I suspect a level of Autism possibly
presta
Guru
So far, the only time that I've been scammed over the telephone was by a guy in the building society call centre, and was after I phoned them, and not on a cold call. A complaint to the building society got me my money back after they dug out the recording of the call, and heard what had happened.
chris-suffolk
Über Member
Interesting to read peoples' experiences when they challenge a genuine call. I did the same with a call from my bank a while back, and asked for details of the last 3 transactions on my card to prove they were who they said they were. They got really annoyed. Why is it ok for them to ask me to pass security checks, but it's not ok they other way around? Especially when it's them that's called me?
ebikeerwidnes
Guru
- Location
- Z’ha’dum
When telephone banking first started - so many years ago - I swapped as soon as I knew about it all
many months after I got a phone call from my bank - who only did telephone banking
They wanted me to go through security before they could talk to me - such as giving them 3 specified letters from my passowrd and all that stuff
I refused
The person on the other end sounded rather confused and told me that she couldn;t discuss the account unless she had made sure she was talking to the account holder first
I told her that I was pleased about that and totally agreed with it - but before I could discuss anything I needed to know who she was.
This confused her even more until I explained a bit more
I told her I would ring them right back on the number on my card - but when I did I expected there to be a record on my account of her call
and if there wasn;t then I would need to talk to someone about a fraudulant call having been made
I gave it a few minutes and rang them and there was a note saying they had rung and I was ringing back to ensure it was the right people
I have been with them for several decades now and they have never done that again - I do wonder if I was the first person called and refused to dicuss it
thats what comes to working with computer security systems - makes you cynical about everything!!
chris-suffolk
Über Member
Seems that not all organisations are quite up to the same level just yet. My call, which confused them quite a bit, was a major high street bank and only a few months ago. Reluctantly they agreed to anwer my questions, but made it clear that they weren't going to answer more than a couple.
In the past I've tried to set up a security number that I can ask for digits from when they call - that went nowehere. Apparently they don't have the systems to be able to do it, depsite expecting me to do exactly that.
Kingfisher101
Veteran
What about that sophisticated fraud involving 3 cups and a pea underneath one? How come nothing is done about this, has anyone heard of it or had any experiences?.
Moon bunny
Judging your grammar
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- Basking in my own brilliance.
Yes quite a lot, even government departments, but I’m a bit lost on how sending a photo proves who I am if I’m not stood in front of the official, I could “borrow” (without asking) quite a few peoples’ documents.
Yeah - these two guys are the experts - they can even do it with transparent cups...
View: https://youtu.be/8osRaFTtgHo?si=YAafVwg90zSf1pBG
Profpointy
Legendary Member
Never been asked for that. Sounds dodgy, and even if it is so-say "genuine" I suspect it would be in breach of GDPR
