PhilDawson8270
Veteran
It's what happened in the incident I described prior in which my comment was based upon. But don't let that stop your attitude.
Nearly wiped out a whole cycling club
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It's what happened in the incident I described prior in which my comment was based upon. But don't let that stop your attitude.
glenn forger
Guest
Can you say where you got this rule from or not?
vickster
Squire
He was doing about 20mph, had a clear view of the crossing, made no attempt to slow despite dry roads.
glenn forger
Guest
How fast are you claiming the leaders were going?
PhilDawson8270
Veteran
Each cyclist has a duty of care for themselves, and nobody else. Just because the ride leader has a clear, right of way, does not mean everybody following does.
sidevalve
Über Member
First cyclist, second cyclist, thirty oddth cyclist makes NO difference TRAFFIC ON THE ROUNDABOUT HAS PRIORITY. Cyclists are NOT one vehicle they are lots of separate vehicles [just like cars] and when the r/about became occupied the following riders should have stopped [I assume of course that the 'cyclists are perfect and we'll find an excuse for breaking any traffic law wouldn't be dumb enough to follow the leader if he just ran into a river for example so why into the path of other vehicles going about their perfectly law abiding business ]. Why get angry - because they make it worse for me, the OP and every other rider out there. Pathetic TDF wanna be's an urban warriors who imagine they can do as they please and just get away with it. They're as crap as the car drivers they pretend to despise. perhaps selling the bikes and buying a german make of car would make them feel right at home.
U Tube video of some made up 'accident' and it's clearly a 100% true nailed on example of bad/dangerous driving by some motorist and we all believe it [really ?] but a comment by a cyclist about other cyclists actually doing something wrong [surely such a thing is impossible] and it's obviously total boXXXcks.
Some cyclists do dumb things - some cyclists break the law, so do car drivers but that doesn't make it ok
If you break the law don't cry when other people do the same.
Leaving this now to the cyclists can do no wrong zealots.
U Tube video of some made up 'accident' and it's clearly a 100% true nailed on example of bad/dangerous driving by some motorist and we all believe it [really ?] but a comment by a cyclist about other cyclists actually doing something wrong [surely such a thing is impossible] and it's obviously total boXXXcks.
Some cyclists do dumb things - some cyclists break the law, so do car drivers but that doesn't make it ok
If you break the law don't cry when other people do the same.
Leaving this now to the cyclists can do no wrong zealots.
PhilDawson8270
Veteran
It isn't possible to put a number on the speed of them since they were travelling perpendicular to me, and any number would be a guess.
But as an ESTIMATION, I would average around 16 to 17mph around those roads. They looked to be very experienced cyclists taking part in a race, and seemed to be going considerably quicker than I am capable of, plus in a group they would be more efficient also. So I'd say around 22-24mph at an estimation, but that is the best I can do.
I expect all road users to do something stupid, and prepare to not have a collision where possible. It has worked well for over a decade so I can't be that wrong. However, it doesn't stop us having a rant at others stupid behaviour. It's good to vent at times, even when you have prepare and stopped in time, it doesn't make the behaviour of others any better.
glenn forger
Guest
The entire thread could be summed up as "Waaah! I had to use my brakes!"
PhilDawson8270
Veteran
The same can surely be said for when a cyclist has to stop for a car who failed to yield to a cyclist with priority.
Admittedly, the risks to each road user are not balanced. But the thread is essentially the same.
Dec66
A gentlemanly pootler, these days
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I was here (pretty much where the Google car was) about to take the next exit:
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.4...Z-MVfarhehyodK8IepsA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en
Cyclists came from the exit road on the left, in a large bunch. Nowhere for me to go but stop, and quickly.
My main complaint is that if you do this when you are on your own, then fine, you might squeeze through ok, but you take the risk. But please don't do it if you are leading a group as you are going to get them killed.
I mainly posted here in the hope that maybe one of the riders might read this.
vickster
Squire
Maybe the cyclists could have thought about doing so when they don't have priority
glenn forger
Guest
Never grow stale, do they? These "One time I saw a cyclist do something silly" threads that people regularly post on cycle forums.
