My 20 minute Cragg Vale hill climb challenge

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400bhp

Guru
No-one (180 odd riders) on Strava has beaten 20 minutes this month

http://app.strava.com/segments/1187651
 

Rob3rt

Man or Moose!
Location
Manchester
Its funny how people bang on about going to France and riding the climbs over there but we have some legendary climbs
here. If I could take the time off I would book in to a BB and have 3 or 4 days having a go at Cragg Vale .

Climbs in the UK are VERY different to the sort of climbs you get on the continent.

Cragg Vale is only "legendary" because it is the longest continuous gradient in England, it is not challenging nor is it that pleasant.
 

nickyboy

Norven Mankey
Just got back from doing the Cragg on my fixed gear,
way overgeared at 80 inches (46/15 )so the mid section was a real grunt.
I managed 26:30,have done it in 24 mins with the assistance of 2 roadies who
let me draft them all the way up,cant see me ever getting anywhere near 20 mins
without a howling north wind for assistance :blush:

Having just done it today it doesn't really lend itself to fixed does it? I was in 50/21 on the lower section, 34/19 on the steeper middle bit then 50/17 for the final couple of kms. Our times are very similar so I think you'd be significantly quicker than me on a geared bike
 

nickyboy

Norven Mankey
How does it compare to the Cat and Fiddle, Snake Pass and Long Hill?
It is most like Long Hill. Overall the length is similar (Cragg Vale is about 1km longer) and the gradient is about the same. Cragg Vale has more variation in gradient. Cat and Fiddle is not dissimilar also. Snake is quite different, much steeper.
I found Cragg Vale today to be a nice, friendly climb which I could do in the big ring for most of it. Into a headwind I can imagine it being awful.
 

Hacienda71

Mancunian in self imposed exile in leafy Cheshire
It is most like Long Hill. Overall the length is similar (Cragg Vale is about 1km longer) and the gradient is about the same. Cragg Vale has more variation in gradient. Cat and Fiddle is not dissimilar also. Snake is quite different, much steeper.
I found Cragg Vale today to be a nice, friendly climb which I could do in the big ring for most of it. Into a headwind I can imagine it being awful.

Excellent:thumbsup:. @400bhp is going to love that.........:whistle:
 
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ColinJ

ColinJ

Puzzle game procrastinator!
Well, despite saying that I might not time myself again for a while ... I felt good riding up the climb today and the wind conditions were much better than usual, so I thought I'd have a go as far as the bus turning area on the steeper section. If it looked like I could beat my current PB then I would persist with my effort. So ... I looked at the GPS when I got to the bus stop and it looked like I was on to take maybe 1.5 minutes off my last time!

I continued to push on, but my pulse rate was getting too high so I backed off before it caused any problems. (My recent heart rhythm problems seem to be triggered by excessive effort, so it is better to not take any chances!) I still managed to knock a minute off my time, and I was happy with that.

A mate was riding up behind me on his singlespeed bike and he said that it was the first time in years that he didn't feel like he was having to hang about for me, so that was good to hear.

Update on my Cragg Vale HC times:
  • 19/05/13: 39:15 [Finished first Warfarin treatment regime but already reclotting!]
  • 25/10/13: 35:15 [8-10 kph cross/headwind]
  • 04/11/13: 34:26 [ ditto ]
  • 10/11/13: 32:19 [ ditto ]
  • 25/11/13: 31:19 [5-7 kph cross/headwind]
 

nickyboy

Norven Mankey
Well, despite saying that I might not time myself again for a while ... I felt good riding up the climb today and the wind conditions were much better than usual, so I thought I'd have a go as far as the bus turning area on the steeper section. If it looked like I could beat my current PB then I would persist with my effort. So ... I looked at the GPS when I got to the bus stop and it looked like I was on to take maybe 1.5 minutes off my last time!

I continued to push on, but my pulse rate was getting too high so I backed off before it caused any problems. (My recent heart rhythm problems seem to be triggered by excessive effort, so it is better to not take any chances!) I still managed to knock a minute off my time, and I was happy with that.

A mate was riding up behind me on his singlespeed bike and he said that it was the first time in years that he didn't feel like he was having to hang about for me, so that was good to hear.

Update on my Cragg Vale HC times:
  • 19/05/13: 39:15 [Finished first Warfarin treatment regime but already reclotting!]
  • 25/10/13: 35:15 [8-10 kph cross/headwind]
  • 04/11/13: 34:26 [ ditto ]
  • 10/11/13: 32:19 [ ditto ]
  • 25/11/13: 31:19 [5-7 kph cross/headwind]

Great effort. I started the climb at 11.30am, don't think I saw you? The wind, such as there was a wind, felt like crosswind on the top section but not really anything. Did you get stopped by the temp traffic lights on the way up. I did, most frustrating when you've come 30 miles to climb the hill
 
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ColinJ

ColinJ

Puzzle game procrastinator!
Great effort. I started the climb at 11.30am, don't think I saw you? The wind, such as there was a wind, felt like crosswind on the top section but not really anything. Did you get stopped by the temp traffic lights on the way up. I did, most frustrating when you've come 30 miles to climb the hill
No, it was about 1:30 when I rode up.

The wind was the same for me - it just produced gentle ripples on the surface of the reservoir at the top. Normally, there are small waves rolling diagonally across it. On a bad day, there are large waves breaking on the side of the reservoir next to the road. On the very worst days, I have seen waves actually reaching halfway up the wall and breaking over the road!

I was lucky with the lights - they changed to green at the perfect time for me so I just rolled on through.

All this excitement on peddling up a hill ,,, I will have a crack tomorrow morning for a good time as its on my weekly morning circuit before work.
It looks like the wind has picked up again today, so it will be tougher up there.

I'm pleased at people's reaction to this thread. It is only a bit of fun really, but it is certainly encouraging me to get out more and see what I can do. It is great that others are having a go too.

You do realise where this will end up, though ...? We will have to join Rob3rt, dr_pink et al and have a go at the official Cragg Vale HC next October!

Perhaps those of us who are not members of existing clubs could enter as members of team CycleChat aka CCCC (Cycle Chat Cycling Club), if @Shaun didn't mind us borrowing the name for that purpose? I don't know what the rules are for club membership - could @Rob3rt, @dr_pink, @totallyfixed or someone else explain how the system works?

My times are still slow, but a year ago I could only manage to walk 350 metres to the local shops so I am not complaining!
 
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