Motorsports Thread

[figbat]

Hamilton can't have it both ways; he either did or didn't realise that Verstappen was giving him the place back 'strategically'.

Regardless of the situation and what he did or didn't know, he would still want to be behind Max at the DRS line. Passing Max before the line is a sure-fire way to allow Max past on the following straight (as we subsequently saw). So not knowing what was going on it is reasonable to expect a car not to brake well outside of a braking zone and it is reasonable to want to play the DRS game.

 

[icowden]

Regardless of the situation and what he did or didn't know, he would still want to be behind Max at the DRS line. Passing Max before the line is a sure-fire way to allow Max past on the following straight (as we subsequently saw). So not knowing what was going on it is reasonable to expect a car not to brake well outside of a braking zone and it is reasonable to want to play the DRS game.

Also, if you look at the speeds - Hamilton is expecting certain behaviour from the driver in front. He isn't expecting to overtake there, and therefore he expects a certain pattern of braking from Max. Max does something odd and Lewis reacts as quickly as he can, diving to the left, just not quite quickly enough for the hard braking that Verstappen is doing.

 

[glasgowcyclist]

Regardless of the situation and what he did or didn't know, he would still want to be behind Max at the DRS line.

Yes, up to a point. I've never seen anyone slow so much before the DRS activation line, either in this or any other race. There will be a certain amount of cat & mouse but not to the extent of dropping 5 gears!

I'm not that bothered whether he was aware or not, because I blame Verstappen for the collision, but Hamilton can't play both excuses at the same time, he has to pick a reason and stick to it.

 

[Reynard]

Do they suspect when you issue time penalties ?

No... I've not been caught. Yet.

 

[Reynard]

Can't believe you've missed out Damon!?!

The loveliest man in motorsport. Evvs. (Although young Jenson is a close second.)

 

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Really ? I thought it was a huge embarrassment to motorsport, thanks partly to Masi's patent Random Rules Generator.

The last race will be chaos unless one of the protagonists goes out early due to mechanical failure . I can see the results being decided in court like in the Balestre era.

Yeah…Really!
I enjoyed it because it was incident packed,the lead changing places and knowing that Hamilton had to win to stand any chance of retaining the F1 title.
I accept we are all different and you didn’t see it that way.

 

[icowden]

Yeah…Really!
I enjoyed it because it was incident packed,the lead changing places and knowing that Hamilton had to win to stand any chance of retaining the F1 title.
I accept we are all different and you didn’t see it that way.

Can I vote for a middle ground? I thought it was a great race, but some of the "happenings" really need to be looked at (like the negotiations with the race director for example who should have told Horner to buzz off and mind his own business).

 

[Bonefish Blues]

Peter Windsor, who's got better credentials than most:


View: https://youtu.be/dzOifmr8yfU


Or shorter, Driver61, who's also developing a good reputation for clarity & impartiality:


View: https://youtu.be/F1XfFdwutSU

 

[matticus]

Hilarious:

Verstappen: Penalised Saudi Arabian GP move "was fine in Brazil"
By:
Filip Cleeren
Dec 7, 2021, 8:20 AM
Max Verstappen is struggling to understand why he got penalised for running Lewis Hamilton off the track in the Saudi Arabian Grand Prix after not being sanctioned for a similar incident in Brazil.

 

[FishFright]

Yeah…Really!
I enjoyed it because it was incident packed,the lead changing places and knowing that Hamilton had to win to stand any chance of retaining the F1 title.
I accept we are all different and you didn’t see it that way.

Fair enough

 

[Illaveago]

Hilarious:

They should make it clear that the run off areas which he believes to be part of the circuit are out of bounds and only to be used for safety purposes . Using them as a means to overtake or to remain in the lead should come with very stiff penalties .

 

[Illaveago]

DC's comment on Verstappen's brave dive into the corner to overtake Ocon and Lewis was utter tosh ! It looks more like an attempt to take Lewis out . Verstappen might have ended up with a tank slapper but it looks like he purposely drove across the front of Lewis cutting across the second bend .

 

[Illaveago]

I was thinking about good drivers and the names of Johnny Herbert, Lando Norris and Billy Munger came to mind .

I think David Coulthard and Mark Webber have gone over to the dark side !

 

[Reynard]

For a non-F1 driver, one of the best eggs out there is Colin White - the pro-am Ginetta champion. Although I still haven't quite forgiven him for pouring champagne down the back of my jacket. And people might not like Jason Plato as a driver, but as a bloke, he's a blast. Actually, his dad is even more outrageous... Tim Harvey is another really lovely person.

F1 drivers... For me, has to be none other than "The Headmaster"

 

[Illaveago]

I couldn't believe it!
The BBC have put Max Verstappen up for the international sports star of the year award !