Hopefully the fact that the new cars are narrower might mean some improvement.
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Reynard
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Early 1980s... Major problems with the heat and the concrete surface breaking up.
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Yep - round the car park of one of the casinos.
I think this makes it 23 or 24 races planned for next year which is way too many and I've never seen the attraction of street races, especially Monaco.
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That's what I said, Caesar's Palace.
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Apologies - somehow I read that as Las Vegas! Must have mixed it up with the post you quoted.
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I think 20 races is about right, personally. Used to be 16, which I guess made you look forward to them more. Twenty three or twenty four races just smacks of people lining their pockets at the expense of the personal lives of the teams and drivers.
Street races are enjoyable when they get the circuit right. But quite often, it's more about going where the money is. The US GP was about street races for a fair while after they stopped going to Watkins Glen - Caesar's Palace, Dallas, Detroit, Phoenix... Trouble with American street circuits is that the corners tend to be 90 degrees left and 90 degrees right. Gets very, umm, repetitive after a while.
Actually, there used to be two GP in the US when I first started watching F1 - US GP East and US GP West.
FishFright
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Heretic !!! Burn the witch !
My later father said long ago " When you get Monaco you'll get F1" It took a while but he was correct.
A good place to start is listen to the drivers talk about racing at Monaco. You don't have to like it but it is very important to F1 and has been since the 50's.
But after all that this years fat knack cars can't be as much fun there as the lithe racing machines of the past.
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They've been racing in Monaco since the 1920s, so out of all the circuits used for F1* (and this includes Silverstone, Spa and Monza), it has the longest and most distinguished history.
Formula E is banging around the full Monaco circuit. Smaller and more nimble cars, they always put a fabby race on.
* Only Le Mans has a longer and more distinguished history, having first hosted the French GP in 1906, albeit in a somewhat different layout to the one we're now familiar with...
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Albeit Shelsley Walsh is by a long way older, and represents the original (well, an original) form of motorsport.
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We can only hope, although the drivers will grumble they can't sleep in their own beds the night before, they'll just have to do what they normally do & sleep in somebody else's.
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The British GP will be gone soon at this rate.
They can’t afford the increased fees and the facilities are looking tired compared to other modern shiner tracks.
They can’t afford the increased fees and the facilities are looking tired compared to other modern shiner tracks.
Next negotiation will be in 2024. It doesn't help that Bernie / Liberty negotiated to kill off F1 in the UK by selling the screening rights to Sky for £1.18 billion. It'll be interesting to see whether they renew that contract or force us all to buy F1TV...
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Likewise trials. Basically, muddy hillclimbs. Some of the hills in use on various events have been "observed sections" for well over a century.
Although I was talking about circuit racing upthread.
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Rascasse corner - the early years:
