Living on coffee??

[T.M.H.N.E.T]

Your body may be losing lean muscle tissue. Muscle weighs more than fat and a little loss of muscle will show on the scale but it's not real good for you. Learn about nutrition and eat healthy.

No,muscle does not weigh more than fat.

 

[jefmcg]

No,muscle does not weigh more than fat.

It's a common english expression to mean it's more dense than fat. A litre of muscle weighs about 18% more than a litre of fat (try not to get the image of a litre of fat in your head)

But to the OP: any calorie restricting diet you'll lose muscle along with fat. The trick is to minimise that. Body builders just give up, and built fat and muscle together, and accept when losing the fat before a competition, they'll lose some of the muscle too.

If anyone finds the caffeine diet described scary, google ECA stack.

 

[Rob3rt]

It's a common english expression to mean it's more dense than fat. A litre of muscle weighs about 18% more than a litre of fat (try not to get the image of a litre of fat in your head)

But to the OP: any calorie restricting diet you'll lose muscle along with fat. The trick is to minimise that. Body builders just give up, and built fat and muscle together, and accept when losing the fat before a competition, they'll lose some of the muscle too.

If anyone finds the caffeine diet described scary, google ECA stack.

I'd have took a punt that is it more a common lack of understanding than a common English expression.

ECA contains Ephedrine a banned substance.

 

[vickster]

(try not to get the image of a litre of fat in your head)

= a large McDonald's milkshake

 

[jefmcg]

ECA contains Ephedrine a banned substance

http://www.nhs.uk/medicine-guides/pages/MedicineOverview.aspx?medicine=Do-Do Chesteze

 

[vickster]

I assume it's only banned if you are competing in races / competitions...like the OP, but do they test for amateur TTs?!

 

[T.M.H.N.E.T]

It's a common english expression to mean it's more dense than fat. A litre of muscle weighs about 18% more than a litre of fat (try not to get the image of a litre of fat in your head)

But to the OP: any calorie restricting diet you'll lose muscle along with fat. The trick is to minimise that. Body builders just give up, and built fat and muscle together, and accept when losing the fat before a competition, they'll lose some of the muscle too.

If anyone finds the caffeine diet described scary, google ECA stack.

Its a common misunderstanding.

 

[Rob3rt]

I assume it's only banned if you are competing in races / competitions...like the OP, but do they test for amateur TTs?!

Yes.

 

[T.M.H.N.E.T]

I assume it's only banned if you are competing in races / competitions...like the OP, but do they test for amateur TTs?!

With Cycling Ireland, anyone from leisure rider to Elite can be tested. The chances of a testing team being at a sportive though are slim.

 

[Rob3rt]

http://www.nhs.uk/medicine-guides/pages/MedicineOverview.aspx?medicine=Do-Do Chesteze

Just because you can buy something doesn't mean it is not a banned substance, consult WADA, not the NHS!

 

[vickster]

OP better stay away from the speed and the coke then as weight loss aids and stick to salad

 

[vickster]

Just because you can buy something doesn't mean it is not a banned substance, consult WADA, not the NHS!

But it's not banned for people who aren't competing in any sort of sport and need it for its therapeutic properties.

I work with the Pharma industry and if a drug is 'banned', it's unobtainable, unlicensed, illegal to sell. @jefmcg may have had the same interpretation

 

[jefmcg]

Just because you can buy something doesn't mean it is not a banned substance, consult WADA, not the NHS!

Well, I'll admit ignorance to this, so I just tried google. Stimulants are only banned in competition http://list.wada-ama.org/prohibited-in-competition/prohibited-substances/ so it would be ok to use it to lose weight prior, right? IE it's not on this list http://list.wada-ama.org/prohibited-all-times/prohibited-substances/

 

[Rob3rt]

Yes, according to the on-line listings, it is banned in-competition, I wasn't arguing the technicalities, I simply stated that Ephedrine is a banned substance, which it is. It is up to the individual to check on the details if they want to take something like this.

Might also want to check on the dosage required to illicit the "fat burning" effects, as this may mean taking large doses of medicine which includes other ingredients you shouldn't be taking in these quantities.

The normal thing to do is to simply east a decent diet and train well.

 

[speccy1]

This thread is getting out of hand