La Vuelta 2016 **SPOILERS**

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smutchin

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Sky looks like they've made a bollix by letting Konig leave,

Didn't know that. Shame. He's hardly had a chance, though I was surprised he wasn't in the Tour team - guess his numbers don't add up.
 

smutchin

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He's won the Giro

...in a year when Nibali, Contador and Froome focused on the Tour.

Although, tbh, I don't think winning this Vuelta would prove much about Quintana that we didn't know already. Froome is clearly feeling the effects of a long season, while Contador is looking like a rider whose best days are behind him.
 
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HF2300

Insanity Prawn Boy
So what can Froome afford to give away before Stage 19's 37k TT. I think if it slips outside 1.30 to Quintana he's had it

If Quintana was serious in interview, he wants 3 minutes over Froome to be certain. Suspect it was a half-joking reference to the difference in their TT form though.

CF - paced himself out of trouble, same as he always does :-)

Don't know if I'm entirely convinced by this - is there evidence that Froome was in trouble? He was distanced by Movistar, but it seemed from what I saw that he was doing the usual Sky ride by the numbers, rather than that he was in trouble on the early slopes. Admittedly I'm only going by the highlights, which can be misleading.

One thing I've never seen anyone point out, and I think is interesting, is that Froome's tactic of 'you need to do X numbers to achieve Y' is pretty much exactly the same technique the Team GB pursuiters use on the track.

Although, tbh, I don't think winning this Vuelta would prove much about Quintana that we didn't know already. Froome is clearly feeling the effects of a long season, while Contador is looking like a rider whose best days are behind him.

Must admit I was thinking this a couple of days ago about Quintana's first attack (when you posted the 'baby I'm back' clip). I wonder how 'back' he is - he looks more effortless than the others, but perhaps because of their limitations rather than because he's in significantly better form than the Tour. Having said that, I do think we might see him lift his game again, not necessarily because of physical form but because the Covadonga win will have given him a psychological boost.
 
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HF2300

Insanity Prawn Boy
I'm wondering now if I didn't imagine it! Or it was an unsubstantiated rumour.

You did manage to convince me at the start of this thread that Purito was entered, much against my better judgement as I knew full well he'd said the Olympics was his last race. I think you just chuck these things in to see if we're paying attention.
 
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You did manage to convince me at the start of this thread that Purito was entered, much against my better judgement as I knew full well he'd said the Olympics was his last race. I think you just chuck these things in to see if we're paying attention.
^_^ In my defence, he was in the bookies odds!

Here's where I saw the Konig reference
http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news...ve-bora-hansgrohe-officially-confirmed-269698

...Czech Leopold König will return to Bora, where in 2014 he placed seventh in the Tour de France, after two years with Team Sky...
 
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Dogtrousers

Kilometre nibbler
Don't know if I'm entirely convinced by this - is there evidence that Froome was in trouble? He was distanced by Movistar, but it seemed from what I saw that he was doing the usual Sky ride by the numbers, rather than that he was in trouble on the early slopes. Admittedly I'm only going by the highlights, which can be misleading.

One thing I've never seen anyone point out, and I think is interesting, is that Froome's tactic of 'you need to do X numbers to achieve Y' is pretty much exactly the same technique the Team GB pursuiters use on the track.
That was what I thought (on the basis of no evidence whatsoever) was going on - that Froome was watching the numbers on his stem and not the race, Sky having calculated beforehand what he needed to do to get his best time, leaving others to see if they could better it.

That was a very beautiful setting I thought.

This is quite entertaining. I hope Quintana can hang on.
 

400bhp

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Don't know if I'm entirely convinced by this - is there evidence that Froome was in trouble? He was distanced by Movistar, but it seemed from what I saw that he was doing the usual Sky ride by the numbers, rather than that he was in trouble on the early slopes. Admittedly I'm only going by the highlights, which can be misleading.

One thing I've never seen anyone point out, and I think is interesting, is that Froome's tactic of 'you need to do X numbers to achieve Y' is pretty much exactly the same technique the Team sky

Is the covadonga a very consistent gradient? From experience riding by numbers is pretty hard tI when the gradient pitches and steepens.

If froome was in top form he wouldn't be doing what he's doing.
 
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