La Vuelta 2013 (24 Aug - 15 Sept) **SPOILERS**

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beastie

Guru
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penrith
Great effort by Roche to just about hang in there. Horner at 42 is able to burn off up the hill and when Nibali went, Horner was still pulling time on him. No es posible.
 
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smutchin

smutchin

Cat 6 Racer
Location
The Red Enclave
Possible? I don't know. Horner has raced a lot less this year than the other GC contenders so is probably a lot fresher than them...

What I do know is that he's a wilfully shortsighted Lance apologist, which is reason enough not to like him.
 

Noodley

Guest
Nocentini is also having a late flourish of youth...

edit - or he has been, not seen today's results yet.
 

thom

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The Borough
Possible? I don't know. Horner has raced a lot less this year than the other GC contenders so is probably a lot fresher than them...
I think if he's up to no good then we'll find out, so as regards his current sporting achievement he's to be given the benefit of the doubt.
 

Flying_Monkey

Recyclist
Location
Odawa
It's true that Horner is fresh having come back from a long lay-off but on the other hand, he's also lacking race conditioning and he's 42. He's always had this kind of pattern of form though - on top of the world in one race and then rubbish the next. Coupled with his connections and belief in Lance, it does make one at least have suspicions.
 
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Alberta
Only saw the ITV4 highlights yesterday, with sound off (offshore, on the treadmill...) so can anyone tell me why Fenn and De Gendt were binned ? Were they guilty of causing the neutral stage crash or something ??
 

deptfordmarmoset

Full time tea drinker
Location
Armonmy Way
Only saw the ITV4 highlights yesterday, with sound off (offshore, on the treadmill...) so can anyone tell me why Fenn and De Gendt were binned ? Were they guilty of causing the neutral stage crash or something ??
If I heard correctly, De Gendt got caught behind the crash and then got DQ'd for excessive car drafting. They didn't know what had happened to Fenn.
 

thom

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Location
The Borough
It's true that Horner is fresh having come back from a long lay-off but on the other hand, he's also lacking race conditioning and he's 42. He's always had this kind of pattern of form though - on top of the world in one race and then rubbish the next. Coupled with his connections and belief in Lance, it does make one at least have suspicions.
To be fair to him, he just came second in the Tour of Utah which finished Aug 11'th.
 

rich p

ridiculous old lush
Location
Brighton
I'm absolutely baffled by this. Horner was only ever an above average rider, who is now thrashing some of the best climbers in the peloton up the mountains.
I know he's an Armstrong apologist but that's not quite enough to nail him.
Nibali wasn't at his best at the Eneco tour and JRod and Valverde did the TdF but even so it seems implausible.
I'm finding it hard to believe that anyone would be so daft to juice up at 42, to such an extent, and not expect to get busted.
If he's clean, are the others just tired, not 100%fit or has Horner suddenly improved?
And with respect to Thom, 2nd in the Tour of Utah doesn't necessarily indicate beating Nibs and Purito up hills.
As I said above, I'm baffled!
 
As I said before, he wasn't fingered in the USADA report and he used to speak out against Lance until they became best buddies. Still, it smells doesn't it.
 

thom

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Location
The Borough
And with respect to Thom, 2nd in the Tour of Utah doesn't necessarily indicate beating Nibs and Purito up hills.
No but then Nibs & Purito chose not to show up ;-)
Look I'm not taking much of a position here but I think it will come out if he's up to no good.
He was smart yesterday, picking a good time to attack. Remember he suffered a lot the day after his other stage win ?
I just think people are picking on him a bit soon. Some people picked on Froome during the tour as well remember...
 
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