Kinetics 8-speed SA fitting

[T4tomo]

I'm now officially confused. Professor google tells me that 7/8 speed chains are 3/32", and the PC-1 is 1/8". I think I can understand how a chain that's too narrow will ride awkwardly on the chain-wheel like that.

3 speed bromptons use 1/8 chains, 6 SPD 3/32s which might have accounted for the confusion.

I'm tempted, having just a 3 speed. The SA kit as well as being cheaper than the alpine or Rohloff also allows you to keep your existing rear triangle, which having paid extra for titanium one, is a definite advantage for me. It must add a bit of weight over a 3 speed hub, but prob not too noticeable. How does it ride and shift?

 

[srw]

rudimentary skillz iz all you need.

This. I only have rudimentary skills. Good tools, however, are essential. Specifically crank pullers, a chain tool and cable clippers.

 

[GrumpyGregry]

This. I only have rudimentary skills. Good tools, however, are essential. Specifically crank pullers, a chain tool and cable clippers.

^ This.

I also needed a craft knife to get horrid Brompton foam grips off.

 

[cisamcgu]

This. I only have rudimentary skills. Good tools, however, are essential. Specifically crank pullers, a chain tool and cable clippers.

I have a chain tool, if you mean a thing for breaking and putting chains back together. I may have cable cutters, but not new ones, but I don't even know what a crank puller is (well, I do now I looked it up on the computer), and I definitely don't have one.

 

[Flying Dodo]

3 speed bromptons use 1/8 chains, 6 SPD 3/32s which might have accounted for the confusion.

I'm tempted, having just a 3 speed. The SA kit as well as being cheaper than the alpine or Rohloff also allows you to keep your existing rear triangle, which having paid extra for titanium one, is a definite advantage for me. It must add a bit of weight over a 3 speed hub, but prob not too noticeable. How does it ride and shift?

From memory, the wheel weighs 1.2kg. It is a very nice smooth changing unit. Since buying the kit just over 18 months ago, the instructions have clearly been improved a bit and it's good to note there's no longer an issue with the folding pedal as ours jammed on the crank when folding and needed quite a bit of force.

 

[srw]

I have a chain tool, if you mean a thing for breaking and putting chains back together. I may have cable cutters, but not new ones, but I don't even know what a crank puller is (well, I do now I looked it up on the computer), and I definitely don't have one.

It costs a tenner or so, or you will be able to borrow one from someone.

From memory, the wheel weighs 1.2kg. It is a very nice smooth changing unit. Since buying the kit just over 18 months ago, the instructions have clearly been improved a bit and it's good to note there's no longer an issue with the folding pedal as ours jammed on the crank when folding and needed quite a bit of force.

I've compensated for the extra weight by splashing out on a fancy titanium and carbon rack, and by replacing the saddle bag I was using to carry my Carradice cape with a Carradice cape roll. Neither of which was exactly a bargain, but both of which work extremely well.

I only need to replace the brake levers and grips (and, maybe, the handlebars) to make the conversion complete. Oh, and possibly also get hold of a trailer...

 

[srw]

I like those bars, what are they n where from please.

Research elsewhere in the forum suggests they're Tioga. Research on the web suggests they're no longer available.

SJS have got Brompfication titanium bars:
https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/handlebars/brompfication-titanium-handlebars-5-deg-254mm-clamp-520mm/
for the very expensive very aggressive look

Or Thorn comfort bars, for something a bit lower than the M-bar, but possibly too wide:
https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/handlebars/thorn-mk2-comfort-handlebars-254mm-clamp-620mm-satin-black/

These seem to be narrower:
https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/handlebars/humpert-fixie-riser-handlebars-254mm-clamp-500mm-black/

The M-type handlebars appear to be 530mm wide:
https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/handlebars/brompton-handlebar-for-m-type-or-h-type-254mm-clamp/

I've just had a thought. We have a pair of butterfly-style multi-position bars in the garage as one of the (rejected) options for Mrs W as the stoker on the tandem. Might be worth a play.

 

[CopperBrompton]

I like those bars, what are they n where from please.

Tioga mountain-bike bars.

 

[Rohloff_Brompton_Rider]

Tioga mountain-bike bars.

Thanks

 

[Rohloff_Brompton_Rider]

Ordered.

 

[GrumpyGregry]

I keep toying with putting risers on my S-type. It is a bit too arse up heads down for commuting in traffic.

(Where traffic = 1000's of cyclists, texting and reading social media)

 

[CopperBrompton]

I keep toying with putting risers on my S-type. It is a bit too arse up heads down for commuting in traffic.

Yeah, I find this height a nice compromise: higher than S bars, lower than M bars.

 

[windmiller]

Brompton should have designed the S bar type just an inch or two lower than the M type - they then would have provided the best of all worlds. More practicle with better aesthetics. The fact that so many people feel they need to make them higher proves this.

 

[srw]

Brompton should have designed the S bar type just an inch or two lower than the M type - they then would have provided the best of all worlds. More practicle with better aesthetics. The fact that so many people feel they need to make them higher proves this.

I disagree - in my book the S doesn't stand for sporty it stands for short. The M-type bar is high for short people, medium for medium-sized and sporty for tall people.

 

[shouldbeinbed]

I've been mulling coworns on my S type, its maybe me getting more creaky but an inch or so higher as a <6 footer would be perfect IMHO. They're decent as they are & I never had a concern about them but since getting my Birdy with its adjustable height front stem back up and running, I do notice the joys of a slightly more sit up and beg front end.

I didn't like the M type quite as much as the S when I was buying, as it was a grimy November couple of test rides and I felt too much chest into the wind and rain and too sat up on the little steep bits of my commute.