Kimmage Upsets Team Sky

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Hip Priest

Veteran
Well, Peter Kennaugh at least.

He posted the following missive on his Twitter feed earlier:

Well Paul Kimmage today confirmed the fact he is a Waler ! Disrespectful loser

What has Kimmage said?
 

rich p

ridiculous old lush
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Brighton
A Waler or a Walter?
 
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Hip Priest

Hip Priest

Veteran
- When Edvald arrived the team had no heard of Chris Froom. He was number 83 in the Tour de France the year before. Brailfords ways are inscrutable. I'm not saying that to imply anything, but I think it's weird. "Small improvements" is a mantra for Team Sky, but I do not think it characterizes the development of Chris Froom on the team, says Kimmage.

Cheers for the info.

I suppose Sky would answer that Froome has suffered from a series of debilitating illnesses in recent years, from which he has only recently recovered. This, combined with the Sky training programme, has turned him into a potential tour winner.
 

rich p

ridiculous old lush
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Brighton
If Kimmage could come up with something more than mudslinging at Sky, he could salvage some rapidly diminishing credibility. He seems increasingly to be a cross between journo looking for one last big story and a jilted lover.
BTW, any news on what happened to the Kimmage Defence Fund since that geezer ran off with it?
 

zizou

Veteran
Boasson Hagen might not have quite lived up to his early promise but he's not been a total dud either and already has a better palmares than most. His problem over the last few years is that he's not got the speed to compete with Cavendish, Greipel etc so that has left the sort of races that Sagan, Gilbert, Boonen, Cancellera have excelled at. And to beat them he's going to have to get it tactically right too, which seems to be his biggest weakness. Plus there is the whole shitting problem he has, that cant help :biggrin:

btw can you imagine what Kimmage would be going on like if his results were at all comparable to Merckx?!
 

jdtate101

Ex-Fatman
If EVBH wasn't happy he would move teams. It's as much his choice as the team management if or not he stays. Kimmage is increasingly sounding like a bitter and twisted one trick pony. He's alienating everyone with his negativity and seeing conspiracy everywhere, like a paranoid. True, he was spot on with Lance, but one swallow does not make a summer, and trying to tar every person who is successful as a doper will just cause him to be ostracised and sidelined from the sport as a whole.
I do hope someone takes him down a peg or two, preferably a few of his fellow journo's.
 

lukesdad

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You lot have changed your tune on kimmage a bit lol he was always a loser.
 

Flying_Monkey

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Odawa
I think it's a legitimate question to ask, as it is of any rider who hasn't fully met his early promise - long-time members here will know EBH was one of my favourites from way back and while he has done respectably, he has not become the kind of force I had thought he might. The only problem is that there probably aren't any simple answers. He might do better as the leader of a smaller team, but that wouldn't address what zizou quite rightly identifies as his tactical problems.
 

deptfordmarmoset

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PORTO VECCHIO (TV2.no): Det var en Team Sky-pressekonferanse utenom det vanlige to dager før det braker løs i Tour de France.​
Porto Vecchio (TV2.no): There was a Team Sky press conference outside of the usual two days before showtime at the Tour de France.
Sky-sjef Dave Brailsford blir sjelden målløs, men da den anerkjente sykkeljournalisten Paul Kimmage spurte hva som hadde skjedd med Edvald Boasson Hagens talent, ble Brailsford tydelig ukomfortabel.​
Sky boss Dave Brailsford is rarely speechless, but when the renowned cycling journalist Paul Kimmage asked what had happened to Edvald Boasson Hagen's talent, Brailsford was clearly uncomfortable.
– Jeg trodde han skulle bli den neste Eddy Merckx da jeg så ham i 2009, sier Kimmage til tv2.no.​
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I thought he was going to be the next Eddy Merckx when I saw him in 2009, said Kimmage to tv2.no.

Overrasket Boasson Hagen
Surprised Boasson Hagen
Brailsford lot først som han ikke skjønte spørsmålet til Kimmage.​
Brailsford seemed at first as he did not understand the question to Kimmage.
Men da Kimmage spurte Brailsford om hvorfor ikke Edvald Boasson Hagen har utviklet seg til en sammenlagtfavoritt, klarte ikke Sky-sjefen å svare annet enn "alle får lov til å ha en mening. Det er din mening".​
But as Kimmage asked Brailsford why not Edvald Boasson Hagen has developed into one overall favorite, unable Sky boss to answer other than "everyone is allowed to have an opinion. That's your opinion."
– Jeg hadde ikke ventet at han skulle stille det spørsmålet, sier Boasson Hagen.​
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I had not expected him to ask that question, said Boasson Hagen.
Han innrømmer at resultatene det siste året ikke har vært helt topp.​
He admits that the results over the past year has not been top notch.
– Det er greit at han er skeptisk.​
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It's okay, he is skeptical.
Jeg har ikke vist så mange resultater i vårklassikerne, men jeg kjørte grei og vant en etappe i Dauphine.​
I have not shown many results in vårklassikerne, but I ran decent and won a stage of the Dauphine.
Det er ikke noe jeg bryr meg om.​
It's not something I care about.
Han får si hva han vil og tenke hva han vil, sier Boasson Hagen.​
He can say what he wants and think what he wants, says Boasson Hagen.
Ta for the translation work. :thumbsup:
 

rich p

ridiculous old lush
Location
Brighton
I think it's a legitimate question to ask, as it is of any rider who hasn't fully met his early promise - long-time members here will know EBH was one of my favourites from way back and while he has done respectably, he has not become the kind of force I had thought he might. The only problem is that there probably aren't any simple answers. He might do better as the leader of a smaller team, but that wouldn't address what zizou quite rightly identifies as his tactical problems.
The question about EBH is legitimate, if a little barbed, but the he's still throwing mud at Froome with no basis apart from that he's done well.
 

rich p

ridiculous old lush
Location
Brighton
You lot have changed your tune on kimmage a bit lol he was always a loser.
He was a winner when he was digging out evidence about Armstrong but now is basing his 'campaign' on innuendo. He could regain our respect if he dug out some even circumstantial evidence about Sky, Froome and Wiggins being on the juice.
 

lukesdad

Guest
There is nothing complicated about the EBH sky relationship or for that ,the Thomas sky relationship. Offer the money they'll do as you ask.

The question they need to ask themselves is how long will they be content to sit in a team that concentrates on grand tours? Probably as long as the large salary is there would be my guess. Cav of course came to a different conclusion.
 
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