Jimmy Saville biopic

[Drago]

Don't care.
The man was vile and should have lived long enough to be killed.

Rolf is still breathing if you fancy campiging for him to drop through the trapdoor.

 

[Notafettler]

At least nowadays more children are being educated in consent, and to the fact they can speak up if they feel uncomfortable., that their bodies belong to them, and to no one else.

That was my point. While you are trying to make out its just as bad today. Its not. And you cannot tell just by looking at someone wherever they are child molesters or not.

 

[Notafettler]

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Oh my god suggesting prince Charles knew that Saville was child molester with not a spec of evidence.

 

[Notafettler]

Don't care.
The man was vile and should have lived long enough to be killed.

Thats not the point. He didn't kill children. He was sick in the head but he didn't kill children.

 

[Notafettler]

In the late 1970's, in conversation with a member of staff at Stoke Mandeville, they said they would not be on shift when he was in the building, due to his habits with staff and patients and bizarre interest in the mortuary. They had reported their concerns at the time, as had others, and the response was to support them changing shifts.

Point being, if I was aware way back then, you can bet your bottom dollar those in a position to tackle it must have been aware.

How could they not know if nobody wanted to work when he was there?
Instead of dealing with it they choose to ignore it.
Its only recently the Labour Party has decided that a pedophile affiliate should be expelled.

 

[ClichéGuevara]

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It would be incredible if the security services and/or his advisors hadn't vetted him.

 

[Beebo]

It would be incredible if the security services and/or his advisors hadn't vetted him.

He was knighted. What further vetting would they do?

 

[JohnHughes307]

The 1970's were a different era. We didnt really understand that grown up men forcing themselves on young teenage girls was in any way a bad thing. Or that murdering lots of prostututes and a few decent women by mistake was wrong. By watching this dramatic re-enactment we can learn and grow. Hopefully if we can get inside the psychology of Mr Savile and really understand his motivation we can prevent other powerful, creepy, bullying perverts from ever fixing it for girls and boys ever again. That is why I will be watching it.

I'm not sure whether the line you draw between prostitutes and decent women was part of the irony / humour of your post, but it is wrong.

 

[DRM]

I'm not sure whether the line you draw between prostitutes and decent women was part of the irony / humour of your post, but it is wrong.

I read it as murdering both prostitutes, and a few decent women was wrong, which it is, being smacked on the head with a hammer and disemboweled by a psycho from Bradford is appalling, profession doesn't come into it.
I well remember the absolute fear of women being out at night in West Yorkshire, many got lifts/drove themselves home from work if they were on a late shift.

 

[JohnHughes307]

I read it as murdering both prostitutes, and a few decent women was wrong, which it is

I don't accept the mutual exclusivity of the two groups was my point - in fact the groups are meaningless - whatever value you put on "decent" - one doesn't stop being it by becoming a prostitute, not does one automatically become / remain it by not adopting the profession. The only distinction is profession, not some arbitrary notion of decency.

 

[Brads]

Thats not the point. He didn't kill children. He was sick in the head but he didn't kill children.

I'm sorry, but you know this how ?

He was an evil bastard. Him and the rest at Dolphin Square. I would suggest that a dead child connected to him is more of a possibility than not.

 

[ClichéGuevara]

How could they not know if nobody wanted to work when he was there?
Instead of dealing with it they choose to ignore it.
Its only recently the Labour Party has decided that a pedophile affiliate should be expelled.

I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that there would have been some suicides among the victims as a consequence of his actions, combined with the refusal to tackle the issue by those in positions to act.

 

[mudsticks]

That was my point. While you are trying to make out its just as bad today. Its not. And you cannot tell just by looking at someone wherever they are child molesters or not.

I did not say, or 'make out' it was just as bad today, whether or not it is, is a matter for debate, or better still, investigation.

I asserted that such abuse still continues to this day, and that it's still not properly addressed, although yes some positive steps have been taken, and there is better awareness.

Neither did I say that you can tell by looking if someone is a child abuser.

I said that JS gave me the creeps.

And that I have tried to trust my instincts around people, and that has generally served me well.

Your misinterpretation of what I said is entirely on you.

I'm not sure whether the line you draw between prostitutes and decent women was part of the irony / humour of your post, but it is wrong.

My understanding is that he was parodying that very wrong attitude, which is still prevalent in some quarters.

But it's clearly a bit too whoosh for some folks..

 

[Drago]

Ah, disagree with Mudsticks and its "whoosh", you just don't get it. How dare anyone else hold a contrary opinion. Shame on you all for not agreeing completely and without reservation.

 

[Profpointy]

I'm not sure whether the line you draw between prostitutes and decent women was part of the irony / humour of your post, but it is wrong.

I took the post as a barbed comment against the press. It was seemingly OK to murder prostitutes and report on it in a very prurient way, but once "respectable" women were murdered that was seen as a bit much. My recollection was they half excused it as the decent girls had been murdered by mistake. I don't think the press are any better

And for the Original Question, a drama about Saville's crimes seems in very poor taste