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e-rider

Banned member
Location
South West
£20 at a good frame builder would have done it - there is a mobile guy up north who uses magic to get them out - £75 I think, and never fails!
 
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dfthe1

Senior Member
£20 at a good frame builder would have done it - there is a mobile guy up north who uses magic to get them out - £75 I think, and never fails!

Yup. But I was lulled by the sweet words of everyone who's says hacksawing down the post works a treat! I only paid £40 for the bike so I don't want to chuck money at it, but it holds some sentimental memories for me and I'm keen to get it sorted. Looks like I might not have far to go now before I can safely put another post in.
 

johnnyb47

Guru
Location
Wales
Don't know if it's possible or not, but could you insert a cheap steel seat post and hammer it down and push the remains of the old one down the tube to the point its enough for new aluminium post to fit in enough?.
Just an idea that may work
 
I spent an hour in the garage and made another 3/4" or so progress (that's three quarters -- not three or four!)

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I'm the only one who's going to ride the bike. The discussion above got me thinking about minimum post depths. I don't actually need to get rid of the stuck post all the way down -- just enough to allow me to safely put another post in, and I can cut that down to my size.

So is there a standard minimum post depth, and does it vary by post type and saddle height?
Um, what's going on with your hand? are your fingers really Trumpian orange, and your palm a pale mauve?

(enjoying this thread in semi-mock horror. I would totally sever an artery with a hacksaw, the lost an eye - at least - to lye)
 
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dfthe1

Senior Member
Um, what's going on with your hand? are your fingers really Trumpian orange, and your palm a pale mauve?

(enjoying this thread in semi-mock horror. I would totally sever an artery with a hacksaw, the lost an eye - at least - to lye)

Ha! It's a weird white balance thing -- half my hand lit from the window and half from the fluorescent tube. Weird it's split my hand in two like that though.
 

rrarider

Veteran
Location
Liverpool
I wish you good fortune with removing that last bit of the post. What is the process that causes aluminium posts to get stuck in steel seat tubes?
It's only by reading through some threads on this forum, that I'm reminded or informed of a job that needs to be done every so often on an old bike. My bike is 33 years old with a steel frame and an aluminium seat post and I had never loosened the post since I bought it new. I was much relieved to find that it was still free. Similarly I don't remember greasing the freewheel threads when I temporarily changed, then refitted, the block about 20 years ago. That, too is still easy to unscrew. My bike doesn't get ridden in the rain and when I cycled to work in bad weather, I used my even older gas-pipe bike. My bike's never had a hard life and has always been stored, either in my flat, or now, out in the garage. Is its easy life the reason that I've got away with skipping these maintenance tasks?
 
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dfthe1

Senior Member
I wish you good fortune with removing that last bit of the post. What is the process that causes aluminium posts to get stuck in steel seat tubes?
It's only by reading through some threads on this forum, that I'm reminded or informed of a job that needs to be done every so often on an old bike. My bike is 33 years old with a steel frame and an aluminium seat post and I had never loosened the post since I bought it new. I was much relieved to find that it was still free. Similarly I don't remember greasing the freewheel threads when I temporarily changed, then refitted, the block about 20 years ago. That, too is still easy to unscrew. My bike doesn't get ridden in the rain and when I cycled to work in bad weather, I used my even older gas-pipe bike. My bike's never had a hard life and has always been stored, either in my flat, or now, out in the garage. Is its easy life the reason that I've got away with skipping these maintenance tasks?

Essentially, when water gets between the post and tube, it forms aluminium oxide. This fills the small space between the two and binds them together. It may be that your post has been very well greased all that time, or that you've just been lucky!
 

boydj

Legendary Member
Location
Paisley
Most new posts will have a minimum insertion mark. Measure from there to the bottom to get an idea for how much seatpost you need to have inside the seat tube. Then cut the new post / remove more old post as necessary.
 
Location
Loch side.
Essentially, when water gets between the post and tube, it forms aluminium oxide. This fills the small space between the two and binds them together. It may be that your post has been very well greased all that time, or that you've just been lucky!

No. Grease IS the problem, not the solution. We've written about it here often. Just search for the words "emulsion" and the problem should pop up.
 

tommaguzzi

Über Member
Location
County Durham
So. Is it out yet?
I got a similar problem.
I have a Giant carbon frame with a siezed aluminium seat post. It fits me but i want to give it to No.1 daughter and i have no idea how to get it out without destroying the frame.
I bought a bottle of ammonia but then wondered about its effect on the carbon and never proceeded.
The frame still hangs from the ceiling of my garage like a anorexic Giant black bat mocking me.
 
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Location
Loch side.
So. Is it out yet?
I got a similar problem.
I have a Giant carbon frame with a siezed aluminium seat post. It fits me but i want to give it to No.1 daughter and i have no idea how to get it out without destroying the frame.
I bought a bottle of ammonia but then wondered about its effect on the carbon and never proceeded.
The frame still hangs from the ceiling of my garage mocking me.

The proper method has been described here. You'll find it somewhere in the archives. Search for something I posted with the words "sardine can" in there and you'll get it.

Don't do the ammonia thing.
 
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dfthe1

Senior Member
So. Is it out yet?
I got a similar problem.
I have a Giant carbon frame with a siezed aluminium seat post. It fits me but i want to give it to No.1 daughter and i have no idea how to get it out without destroying the frame.
I bought a bottle of ammonia but then wondered about its effect on the carbon and never proceeded.
The frame still hangs from the ceiling of my garage mocking me.

Haven't had much time to work in it this week, so not yet. The chiselling is working - it's slow but I'm making progress. I wouldn't advise it though as there are easier solutions.
 

tommaguzzi

Über Member
Location
County Durham
chiseling is not an option on a plastic frame so i was hoping some chatters had already encoutered and solved my problem and could enlighten me.

anyway good luck and keep us posted.
 
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