Isotonic Bumblings

[winjim]

The placebo effect can be awfully strong.

 

[RebornBumbler]

Indeed - and it's quite possible that's all I'm getting from it.
But I have suffered cramp on longer runs, and that effect can be awfully strong too!

I like to keep my 'nutrition' (not sure that everything I consume is nutritious, but...) separate - I don't want caffeine in the bottles, because that's what coffee's for, and I don't want carbs because cake is my preferred form (ideally a nice dense ginger, or date and walnut )

Topping-up some salts with the water seems to make sense, and seems to help...

 

[vickster]

Some of the high 5 have caffeine. Pass them on or bin if not wanted as I've already taped up the envelope!

 

[RebornBumbler]

Right-oh - I'll just have a single espresso with those on-board

 

[montage]

I did 200miles averaged 18.3mph on water coke and caramel waffle.

Save your money and buy some more expensive bib shorts.
Fastest way to make improvements.

Energy powder works out cheaper per bottle than coke.

Think first post second

 

[JasonHolder]

Energy powder works out cheaper per bottle than coke.

Think first post second

Per calorie

 

[Rob3rt]

Energy powder works out cheaper per bottle than coke.

Think first post second

Especially when you buy the ingredients in bulk and make your own in BIG tubs!

 

[jowwy]

I did 200miles averaged 18.3mph on water coke and caramel waffle.

Save your money and buy some more expensive bib shorts.
Fastest way to make improvements.

I'm struggling to find in his original post were he stated that he was looking for fast improvements - and I honestly don't think bib shorts alone make you improve that much, unless its in the area of comfort.

now a Skinsuit or speedsuit when doing TTs would defo help you improve, but I don't think the OP has stated he does those.........also for a guy that states only fat sloths drink milk as a recovery fluid, why the hell would you drink coke and caramel waffles as an energy source when there is much more natural types of food which would be less fattening.

 

[HLaB]

Diluted juice with a pinch of salt does for me.

 

[JasonHolder]

I'm struggling to find in his original post were he stated that he was looking for fast improvements - and I honestly don't think bib shorts alone make you improve that much, unless its in the area of comfort.

now a Skinsuit or speedsuit when doing TTs would defo help you improve, but I don't think the OP has stated he does those.........also for a guy that states only fat sloths drink milk as a recovery fluid, why the hell would you drink coke and caramel waffles as an energy source when there is much more natural types of food which would be less fattening.

Hard to find more natural energy sources in a service station knob head!

 

[winjim]

Especially when you buy the ingredients in bulk and make your own in BIG tubs!

Got any recipes?

 

[jowwy]

Hard to find more natural energy sources in a service station *********!

Then take food out with you, simples

 

[JasonHolder]

Then take food out with you, simples

Ride far enough to even need food first and then say carrying 3000kcal+ in your pocket sounds fun.

 

[jowwy]

Ride far enough to even need food first and then say carrying 3000kcal+ in your pocket sounds fun.

Then get a tri bag and put it all in there, ways and means..........you'll learn as you get older

 

[StuAff]

I'm just discovering isotonic drinks (actually fizzy supplements to make isotonic drinks when added to water) and think I detect better immunity to cramping and less outrageous quaffing in the hours after a ride - but have only tried a couple of varieties.

I had a couple of citrus High 5 Zeros and a High 5 Extreme (with Caffeine) free with a mag - I liked them (but I'm still getting the smell out of the bottle from the caffeine one!)

I happened to see the SiS equivalent in a local shop, so thought "bet they're basically identical" - but so far they're not sitting as well in my gut, and taste distinctly salty/synthetic by comparison - the benefits still seem to be there though.

Obviously I'll probably avoid buying any more of those, but are there any others people particularly recommend / avoid ?

I suspect it'll turn out to be another "every possible product on the market" thread - but you never know ...

Point of order- Zero (and Nuun etc) aren't isotonic..they're zero calorie and only contain electrolytes (and flavouring, obviously). Perfectly good for shorter rides, or on longer ones provided you're getting the energy from other food/drink.