Is this morally wrong...

[rich p]

Good letter Buggi. I agree entirely.

However, I think you lost the moral highground when you said, "...I went into the store to buy some sexy underwear for my fella"



What two consenting adults in the privacy of their own bedroom bla bla.......

 

[Night Train]

Same here. When my God daughters (9 and 14) were staying with me I spent so much time steering them away from Playboy stuff to the point where I just told them what the Playboy company does. They were horrified, they just thought it was a label like Nike or Primark.
I was even trying to explain to the 9 year old why I wouldn't let her buy stilletos in the shoe shop and what was wrong with her saying that they were sexy!

 

[summerdays]

As a parent of girls I wouldn't dream of putting them in a bra at that age. I did give in, when my daughter was in Year 6 and used the "everyone else has got one" technique on me (I was a late developer so that brought back memories). Took her to M&S (of course), where there is a nice selection of bras for children - no longer just white, but nice appealing graphics and colours.

I don't know how you stop this non stop march to putting making kids mini grown ups. Some of the new baby clothes are like mini adult clothes, whats wrong with a baby grow at first?

 

[domtyler]

You'll be buying some La Senza stuff for your daughter then when she's 5?

Well if we are talking about the bright orange knickers with the "Drama Queen" logos in the link I posted earlier then I would have no qualms about buying her those at all. They aren't much different to what she wears now over her nappies, maybe a little briefer but that's it.

I haven't seen the styles that have upset buggi so much so I can't really comment on those.

 

[domtyler]

If Dom's the kind of citizen who wouldn't shop a relative for committing a filthy crime, then presumably he's the kind of dad who'll be sending his kids out onto the streets dressed as they wish!

Dayvo, don't be such a prick!

 

[Maz]

All part of the same belief system:
http://www.un.org/rights/dpi1772e.htm

They could've made it a bit more brief. Brief, get it? eh, eh?

 

[Scoosh]

I totally agree with the OP - and what a cracker of an email !

I wouldn't want to argue with Buggi - she's serious !!!

Do let us know the response

 

[Sh4rkyBloke]

Well, unsure exactly what to put in here...

I agree with Dom about the ones that were linked to, although I wouldn't buy them for my Daughters as they would (I expect) be way overpriced, I don't see them as encouraging youngsters to grow up too quickly...

That said, the playboy stuff and the raunchier stuff (I haven't seen this so can't comment too much) is, at very best, bizarre! Kids should be kids, knickers are purely for functional reasons and not to look good on them. We have Dora knickers for our eldest as she likes the character, but when she starts school (tomorrow - yikes!) she'll be in plain white or pastel coloured knickers I would expect, no reason to buy anything else.

The world has gone mad with Marketing to kids - it's disgraceful. Don't even get me started on Lelli Kelly shoes (sp?) which start at around 36 quid... but the parents have to take responsibility for these purchases, if they can't say no to a 5 year old then I've no pity for them wasting their money and complaining about the prices. Muppets.

Still, had a nice ride in today if anyone's interested...

 

[fossyant]

I'd get on to Asda as well - in there at the weekend getting a few final school clothes - a fair few rather skimpy 'kid' knickers in there - g-strings and the like - totally inappropriate.

 

[Dayvo]

Dayvo, don't be such a prick!

Touched a nerve, Dom?

 

[Blue]

I agree with the OP and applaud the stance taken.

A few years back I was dropping my son off at his year 6 party and was dismayed when I saw the clothing and make-up being worn by the little girls from his class. When I mentioned it to my wife she told me that many of those same children had been dropped off at school by a succession of 'uncles/aunts' over the years. I don't think I'm an old prude, but I do think that many parents need their heads examined. It's only natural that children want to 'grow-up', but it's up to the parents to protect them until they have acquired to wisdom to look after themselves and make balanced decisions about what to wear.

 

[Mr Pig]

The thing about the Play Boy logo is that it's been so over-used that I don't think it means anything any more. Just like the cross and many other symbols, their meaning is almost completely diluted.

I do blame idiotic parents for inappropriate clothes on children. The kids just want to copy Girls About or whatever their fave group is. They have no idea about the signals their clothes may give off.

And I blame the so called celebrities too. Why can't they try to be good role models, just for a change? All they want to do is take as much money off kids as possible, they give sod all back.

 

[Arch]

Good on you, buggi. I think there's some very inappropriate stuff aimed at young girls. I'll be interested to see any reply you get..

 

[buggi]

Well if we are talking about the bright orange knickers with the "Drama Queen" logos in the link I posted earlier then I would have no qualms about buying her those at all. They aren't much different to what she wears now over her nappies, maybe a little briefer but that's it.

I haven't seen the styles that have upset buggi so much so I can't really comment on those.

to be fair Dom, if i had seen these i probably would have just walked past them, like you say, they are not that bad, but the truth is, the reason i spotted the ones i got so upset about was because from a distance they looked like something i would wear. it was only when i got closer that i realised they weren't exactly my size

i'm not sure i agree with the post where someone said i lost a bit of credibility because i went in there to buy something sexy to wear. The truth is I did go in there for that reason, but then i'm 37 years old and sexually mature (or at least I like to think i am ) not 5 years old, and i was trying to make a point that that's what their shop is marketed towards and its not an appropriate place for children or childrens clothes, and i was also trying to make the point that i'm not some prudish Mary Whitehouse type, yet i can still see this is very wrong. Maybe i just worded it a bit wrong. Maybe i should have just said "i'm not a Mary Whitehouse by any means but..."

 

[Night Train]

In the same way I would go into Ann Summers to, er, buy stuff but I didn't want my god daughters going in because the thought they saw something that was interesting.