Is Cancellara Luigi???
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jdtate101
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You'd think so wouldn't you. The spanish police and judiciary are just corrupt enough to delay or block it completely, under the influence of some very powerful people. I bet even if all the anti doping authorities in the world applied pressure on the Spanish, they still wouldn't get round to it.
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That's a bit naughty really Jdate - perhaps a bit jingoistic?
I don't know what it is but none of us here know enough about the case/spanish judiciary to really understand it do we?
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jdtate101
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Not really, corruption in public office is rife in Spain, just google it!!
http://www.economist.com/blogs/charlemagne/2009/03/why_is_spain_so_corrupt
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentis...spanish-political-corruption-converted-action
The lack of surprise is understandable. This latest allegation is merely the icing on the cake in a series of corruption cases, which serve to highlight the generally felt disappointment in Spain's public officials – figures involved in almost every conceivable institution in the land, from the judiciary and the police to the crown.
http://soerenkern.com/web/?p=700
according to a new opinion poll conducted by the Madrid-based Sociological Research Center (CIS), an agency that provides the Spanish government with polling data. Only 0.2 percent of those polled believe corruption is “not widespread” in Spain.
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jdtate101
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Agreed.
Flying_Monkey
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He may or may not be, but it seems that Cippolini was almost definitely 'Maria'...
as I posted on the previous page.....
Flying_Monkey
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Dammit, I thought I had read everything this time...
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I think it boils down to blood doping not having been a criminal offence in Spain at the time.
Puerto is a prosecution of doctors who broke health rules regarding storage and transportation of blood products of clients. Cooling blood with cold coke bottles, storing blood in freezer compartments without temperature gauge or back-up mechanism. This is the point of law. I imagine the identity of the legal clients who used the service then is a confidential matter, just as you wouldn't make public someone's health record without their permission, you can't name the clients of this doctor in the legal process.
WADA has been invited to provide a legal justification to take the next step for identification, Fuentes has offered to reveal names in court but the judge told him not to.
They may actually want to expose the sportsmen but can't do so within the law.
If this is the case (I'm not 100% certain), then it is really shockingly disappointing because you could leverage so much knowledge out of the dopers.
thom
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You say that but cycle chat has a few too. There are tossers wherever you look and certainly twitter has a fair few too but I think there's quite a few in the professional peloton too. On twitter, you don't have to follow them and there are a fair few people there who helped chase down stories about Lance Armstrong. Certainly the Paul Kimmage fund is twitter fuelled.
Don't knock it until you've tried it is all I'm saying.
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I don't understand it when people slag off Twitter. It's like saying "pubs are full of twats". Depends what company you keep.
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jdtate101
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I've always wondered why would footballers or tennis people dope. In games with limited aerobic requirements (both are very stop-start) and mostly skill, there seems to be little benefit. Maybe doping to assist recovery, but agin in these types of sport the tank would rarely be emptied. This is one of the main reasons why doping was so vigorous in cycling, it's such an endurance sport that it did have a pronounced effect.
Other sports that I would figure would benefit most would be track and distance runners, triathlon and ironman, rowing and maybe some of the longer swimming events. Obviously pure strength events would benefit from anabolic's, HGH & testosterone such as weightlifting, sprinting etc...
Would be interesting to understand just what some sports people would gain and where....
Other sports that I would figure would benefit most would be track and distance runners, triathlon and ironman, rowing and maybe some of the longer swimming events. Obviously pure strength events would benefit from anabolic's, HGH & testosterone such as weightlifting, sprinting etc...
Would be interesting to understand just what some sports people would gain and where....
Noodley
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Perhaps the European and World champions from the Spanish football team might be able to answer that....
