jdtate101
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The twitterverse seems to think so......
Let's see if this one has legs.... (pun intended)
Let's see if this one has legs.... (pun intended)
Is Cancellara Luigi???
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oldroadman
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The "twitterverse" is full of t*ssers who hide behind their user names and make wild accusations based on nothing but the need to start rumours or their own prejudice. Only proven facts matter. Remember the ridiculous thing about a secret motor? More rubbish discussed by people who don't have much of a clue, but a great desire to see their stirrings be "followed". Sad for them, innit?
Noodley
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Cancellara rode under the guidance of Riis. That is a fact. In a team where doping was encouraged. Another fact. Do I need to go on? There are plenty of facts that link Cancellara with doping. A final fact - it would not surprise me if Cancellara was a doper. I hope not...but I am open to it being highly likely.
derrick
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Twitter is for twats.
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jdtate101
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I too hope he hasn't, but I've seen enough in the last few years to be seriously jaded when it comes to denials from riders of that era.
If only the Spanish authorities would DNA test the blood found in the raids on Fuentes' offices, then there would be no more questions around who his clients were. I'm guessing that there are a lot of powerful people in the sports world, not only cyclists, that are moving behind the scenes to stop that from happening. DNA testing and Fuentes co-operation (forced or unforced) to unpick his coded client list is the only to be really sure.
If only the Spanish authorities would DNA test the blood found in the raids on Fuentes' offices, then there would be no more questions around who his clients were. I'm guessing that there are a lot of powerful people in the sports world, not only cyclists, that are moving behind the scenes to stop that from happening. DNA testing and Fuentes co-operation (forced or unforced) to unpick his coded client list is the only to be really sure.
oldroadman
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I don't think for a minute the Spanish authorities want to know about what they might find, the results might be too embarrassing.
As 2/3 of his alleged clients were from outside cycling, and the trial judge has ruled against the list being made public, it's not just powerful people in international federations that are likely to be bending the way this is handled. Who could influence a judge so heavily? Only a government, with assurances of lilely consequences of actions?
The judiciary in UK might seem perverese and sometimes a bit daft, but one thing they do seem to guard is their independence and lack of fear in embarrassing governments. Unlike certain other countries in the EU and beyond.
One of the reasons for the attempts at censorship and establishing responsibility for the contents of what you post
laurence
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i don't really have much faith in the Spanish police on this... it's taken them years to make the link that 'maria' may have been mario.
i think it's also a good example of the power of the big money sports that their details aren't being released, just cycling.
i think it's also a good example of the power of the big money sports that their details aren't being released, just cycling.
ColinJ
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In my case, the shock value has almost gone. My reaction to the news about Cipo was: "But of course ..."
I'd be very surprised if Big Mig doesn't join the list in the next year or two, but I would still feel shocked and very upset if Evans, Lemond or Wiggins did.
How disillusioned am I with pro cycling? Let me put it this way - when the Tour came to Britain in 1994, I just had to see it live. I travelled from Yorkshire to Brighton to watch Chris Boardman*** in action. In fact, I paid a lot of money for a seat in the grandstand at the finish line. The Tour is coming to Yorkshire next year with one or two British Tour winners in the peloton and I may not even bother to go and watch the first stage. I will watch the riders pass through Hebden Bridge on the second stage but only because that's less than a 5 minute walk away.
I used to feel bereft at the end of July and that the summer was over almost as soon as it had started. These days, I sometimes forget to watch the odd Tour stage on TV.
I feel the same way about pro cycling now that I would if I caught a partner sleeping with my best friend. I'd remember what the attraction had been, but the relationship would never be the same again!
*** If Boardman turned out to have been a doper, then as far as I'm concerned the cycling decree nisi would become a decree absolute!
400bhp
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Why don't they do it? (DNA test) It's a no-brainer isn't it?
