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Slick

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Friendly reminder...................time is running out, this consultation closes soon.
I've completed it, thanks for the reminder. :okay:
 

Pat "5mph"

A kilogrammicaly challenged woman
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Did you get the final tally at the Glasgow Green cycle counter? I thought about it but as above I was sound asleep long before then :surrender:
I didn't go out at the bells: the cat is not well, I didn't want him to be alone in case the fireworks spooked him like they did on the 5th of November.
The poor wee fur ball has a thyroid condition that makes him nervous, wanted to be there to reassure him. 😊
 

Twilkes

Guru
Hello there, I’m looking at the cycle route from Glasgow to Balloch, Drymen, Callander, Killin, Aberfeldy and Perth – is that a satisfying enough route on its own or are there any tweaks I could make to take in some more scenery? Is the path generally good enough to travel at 15-18mph most of the time, or are the surfaces too variable? I’m guessing that outside of the towns there won’t be much in the way of dog walkers etc.
 
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Pat "5mph"

A kilogrammicaly challenged woman
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Is the path generally good enough to travel at 15-18mph most of the time, or are the surfaces too variable? I’m guessing that outside of the towns there won’t be much in the way of dog walkers etc.
Hi!
Glasgow/Balloch/Drymen lots of variable surfaces on the official route, lots of dogs, etc.
On Drymen to Callander I also recall groups of ramblers on the paths, some of them are actually quite narrow on that stretch.
Imo, you'd be better on an on road route if you're fast.
 

Twilkes

Guru
Hi!
Glasgow/Balloch/Drymen lots of variable surfaces on the official route, lots of dogs, etc.
On Drymen to Callander I also recall groups of ramblers on the paths, some of them are actually quite narrow on that stretch.
Imo, you'd be better on an on road route if you're fast.

Thanks for this – I’ve done Glasgow-Balloch a few times and found the surface to be mostly actually pretty good, apart from coming into Balloch marina where it gets a bit broken up. I’m trying to pace myself hence going by path rather than road, where I always get carried away and run out of juice too early, but have to balance that with not missing my train! I’ll probably just try it and bail onto the road if I need to, there seem to be roads nearby most of NCN7.
 
Hello there, I’m looking at the cycle route from Glasgow to Balloch, Drymen, Callander, Killin, Aberfeldy and Perth – is that a satisfying enough route on its own or are there any tweaks I could make to take in some more scenery? Is the path generally good enough to travel at 15-18mph most of the time, or are the surfaces too variable? I’m guessing that outside of the towns there won’t be much in the way of dog walkers etc.
Apologies for the length of this post, this route has unofficially become my specialist subject.

It's overall an excellent route, but it is pretty variable in parts - particularly the first 10 miles or so.
Before Kilpatrick you'll find it mostly paved, some canal towpath, lots of barriers and rubbish signing - council putting in the barest minimum effort in places.

After Kilpatrick it's better but will have dog walkers.
Lots of fishers and dog walkers on the River Leven path between Dumbarton and Balloch but generally not too bad, once you're out of Balloch it's on quiet backroads all the way to Drymen (ignore the signed off-road section at Croftamie), and from Drymen you follow a very quiet road to Aberfoyle (with the option to jump onto a parallel cycle path further up)

From Aberfoyle to Callander you have two options: the Duke's Pass on road or the rough forestry trail past Loch Drunkie. I would take the road 99 times out of 100.

After Callander you'll be riding an unpaved - but manageable on a road bike - surface no matter what you do past Lochearnhead and up onto the Glenogle viaduct (unless you want to mix it up with traffic on the A84 (strongly not recommended)).
You can either descend from the top of Glenogle to Killin via the main road to Lix Toll or take the offroad forestry route instead, and while this is less suitable for road bikes it is doable. From Killin onwards NCN7 is bliss, fantastic scenery, great rolling roads.

To get from the east end of Loch Tay to Perth you have two options:
- via Amulree and Crieff
- via Dunkeld

Two ways to get to Amulree: I've never ridden it personally but the road from Kenmore to Amulree is extremely steep, narrow and twisty.
The other way involves a steep but safer climb up onto the moor road from Aberfeldy.

The moor road splits, with one way leading to Crieff via Amulree and the other to Dunkeld.

I don't know enough about the area around Crieff to say what the best route to Perth would be (having only ridden there once or twice)

I've never found a remotely direct route from Dunkeld to Perth I like. If I had to, I'd cross the bridge at Dunkeld and take the back roads through Murthly, cross the Tay at Kinclaven/Meikleour and then work my way down to Perth from the direction of Scone.

If you're merely aiming for a train station, Dunkeld and Birnam station is on the same line as Perth, or if you fancy a bit more adventure you could continue north to Pitlochry.

I don't know you or your fitness level but for me at my peak of fitness where I could do 135 miles in a day it'd be a big ask to do the whole ride in a day due to the off-road bits lowering the average speed.
 
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I did this the other way around, on a hybrid, plus the return to Glasgow.
By the time we got to Balloch I was ready to throw the bike in the canal.
:laugh::laugh::laugh:
The forestry route was a great adventure the first time I did it on my MTB. That was before I knew better. Lots of pushing and wailing, as I recall.
 

Pat "5mph"

A kilogrammicaly challenged woman
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Glasgow
@CharlesF if you search the members travelogue section on here, you will find the strava links to many of mine and the CC Ecosse's adventures over the years.
Must go on another cycling adventure soon, haven't been on a surprise ride for ages!
 
That's great, thanks both - this is what Google spits out, is that basically the route as described above, give or take a few road choices? 127 miles from my house which might be pushing it but can always bail at Dunkeld if necessary. How is that B road from Dunkeld to Perth?

https://goo.gl/maps/5USh8GtPgEyFFBkRA
Here's an amended version of the route:

https://goo.gl/maps/6AS4uukEBVYT7iRx9

Differences are: Croftamie cycle path is bad, although it has a nice weird bridge over it, it's a hassle to navigate
Port of Menteith road is a poor place to cycle, re-routed over the Duke's pass
The B road between Dunkeld and Perth ceases to exist after Bankfoot, so swung west onto the minor road that NCN 77 follows

Edit: also rerouted via the high road to Dunkeld as I don't know what the lowland route is like. Might be fine, but I can't recommend a route I've never seen
 
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oldwheels

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Isle of Mull
Where is this Kilpatrick place? I used to live in Bowling which is the next village to Old Kilpatrick. No idea where New Kilpatrick is but there are various Kilpatricks scattered around but only one Old Kilpatrick.
Me pedantic? Never.
 
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