Internal Cabling issues

[Fab Foodie]

I use a 12-30 sprocket and there is a big difference between some of the cogs. Not everyone has a dinner plate on the back though! An extra gear would be welcome if it closed the ratios up. I agree, not much point on an extra cog if you are running close ratios already.
The one thing I would say is that materials and manufacturing techniques improve all the time and although the chain and sprockets are thinner, you may be able to make them better (closer tolerances etc) and actually get better wear, Not saying it is the case in this instance, but engineering is always moving forward. The stuff I learnt in my toolmaking apprenticeship 25 years ago has very little to do with the skills I need now and the work we do is far more accurate now.

Luxury!
I used to run a 12 to 32T 5 speed rear (IIIRC) with a 52/42 chainset in the 80s. People are used to far too many gears these days

 

[bpsmith]

At best, the improvement in jumps is marginal and a lot of people wouldn't really notice it.

Having said that, if you're not using the 28 cog much, fairly soon then you'll be able to swap from the 11-28 and get an 11-25 instead as that weighs 5% less.

On the bikes I've bought, there wasn't an option to specify 9 speed rather than 10. Obviously the push towards 11 speed is all part of consumerism generally, to "persuade" the general public they must have the next new thing, regardless of whether it's actually better or worth it. But that's another issue.

That is true. I will probably drop to the 11-25 when replacement time comes. That 5% will make a difference too.

I must admit that I do sometimes wish I had an in between gear and the 16 is roughly about the position, so I must be noticing the extra tooth step.

 

[bpsmith]

Luxury!
I used to run a 12 to 32T 5 speed rear (IIIRC) with a 52/42 chainset in the 80s. People are used to far too many gears these days

Such is no doubt true, but there's no arguing that it doesn't make life a lot easier by having the extra gears in between?

 

[Fab Foodie]

Such is no doubt true, but there's no arguing that it doesn't make life a lot easier by having the extra gears in between?

Well, In a way it does, but it really depends what kind of riding you're doing. Racing/TTs I'd tend to agree it helps, but otherwise .....
Recently went form a 9spd triple to an old 8spd double and the difference is no big deal. I still keep up with my peers. You just learn to pedal more effectively over a wider range.
I'm happy on fixed, 3 speed, 5, 8, 9 speed.
When's 12 coming out?

Like many things cycling, gearing is just another marketing man's wet dream for the slavering must-have masses.

 

[bpsmith]

I didn't go out looking for 11 speed, it just happened to be on the bikes that I was looking at. I do prefer it over my other 10 speed bike, but not solely down to the extra gear I must admit.

 

[SpokeyDokey]

Well, In a way it does, but it really depends what kind of riding you're doing. Racing/TTs I'd tend to agree it helps, but otherwise .....
Recently went form a 9spd triple to an old 8spd double and the difference is no big deal. I still keep up with my peers. You just learn to pedal more effectively over a wider range.
I'm happy on fixed, 3 speed, 5, 8, 9 speed.
When's 12 coming out?

Like many things cycling, gearing is just another marketing man's wet dream for the slavering must-have masses.

They might skip that and go straight to CVT just like this had:

 

[Fab Foodie]

They might skip that and go straight to CVT just like this had:

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Ahhh, the Variomatic!
I think it's been done on a bike already.

 

[badgeronabike]

Which model Bianchi has he got? Mine is a Sempre Pro and had a rattle on it from new. Wasn't the internal cabling, but a rattling strengthener/spacer which sits underneath the stem top cap. A bit of grease to hold it central and sorted within 20 seconds. Might be worth him having a look there?

+1 here - Bianchi Intenso 2014. Good to know others have seen the same. Thanks.

 

[mrandmrspoves]

They might skip that and go straight to CVT just like this had:

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Don't be so DAFt!