How to get rid of fat on belly and moobs?

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Have a go at this exercise (sit-ups/crunches are far better on a Swiss ball than on the floor as you have a greater range of movement);

http://exercise.about.com/cs/exercisehealth/l/blballchest.htm

then try doing press-ups on it:

http://www.shapefit.com/chest-exercises-push-ups-feet-on-exercise-ball.html

or try any of the listed upper, middle and lower chest exercises.
 

jimboalee

New Member
Location
Solihull
How big is your garden?

Buy in pallet of concrete blocks ( and an empty pallet base ).

Also get some gloves and a pair of steely safety shoes.

1 m^3 of the 'Dense' variety weighs about 2 tonnes.

Every two days, move all the blocks from one pallet to the other, moving the pallet 100mm further apart with each transfer.


They don't rust and you can build a nice bar-b-que when you're Mr Universe.
 

col

Legendary Member
willhub said:
I might have a go at press ups, what is the best way to go? I want to progress to be able to do more, I can barely manage 3 sets of 10 at the moment, should I just do 3x10 once a day around the same time? And next week up that to 3x15?


Thats a good start, but do the 3x 10 every other day, you need to be unable to do the last rep on each set to get real muscular growth. When you can do them easily raise your feet up onto a chair or something to make it hard again, but keep very strict form, that is your hip should touch the floor at the same time as your nose, so keep your body perfectly straight at all times, and slow and controlled movement, you will know when your making it easier for yourself, try not to to get the most from it.
Then get a broom shank and place it between two chairs and lie underneath, grab the shank close to the chairs and do the same form, slow and controlled , and pull yourself up ,palm away from you, if you put your hands close together and palm facing you, you can give your biceps a workpout too. Again keep your body straight and touch the pole with your chest, lower slowly and continue doing 3x10 reps, when that is too easy add another set, then add a bit of weight to yourself like a rucksack with some tins of food in or something similar.
The idea is to make it difficult enough as long as you dont cheat ,so you can just get the last couple of reps out with each set.
Same with the pressups, when they get too easy put a rucksack on and fill it with weight, then start again, but do it every other day and take two off each week, this gives the muscles time to repair and heal to get the benefit.
Stick with it and you will get results, be patient and eat well. good luck.
 

ColinJ

Puzzle game procrastinator!
jimboalee said:
How big is your garden?

Buy in pallet of concrete blocks ( and an empty pallet base ).

Also get some gloves and a pair of steely safety shoes.

1 m^3 of the 'Dense' variety weighs about 2 tonnes.

Every two days, move all the blocks from one pallet to the other, moving the pallet 100mm further apart with each transfer.

They don't rust and you can build a nice bar-b-que when you're Mr Universe.
I started my first job at 06:00, the day after I finished my A-levels (I must have been keen to work in those days :evil: ). It was a labouring job at a small factory in Coventry.

One of the tasks I had to do was to help unload sacks of plastic granules. The factory was so tight up against a railway viaduct that the fork lift truck didn't have access to the delivery lorries. A typical load was about 10 tonnes, made up of 400 25 kg sacks. I'd usually have one other worker helping me.

The lorry driver would stand on the back of his trailer and place (a) sack(s) on our shoulders. We'd then have to walk in through the rear factory gate, up the fire escape and about 25 metres inside the factory to the area where the sacks were stored. Unfortunately, that meant a heck of a lot of walking.

Since I'd be doing half the work, that amounted to carrying a fairly heavy load 5 km with about 750 m of vertical ascent, and another 5km without a load. It was tiring and took a long time. There was always pressure on us to get a move on.

When I first started, I'd take 1 sack at a time, draped across the back of my neck. Soon I got strong enough to carry a 25 kg bag on each shoulder. It was harder than carrying 1 bag at a time, but it was quicker and meant half the walking. After about a month, I tried carrying 75 kg at a time. I was strong enough to do it, but I tripped going up the fire escape and nearly put my back out so I decided to go back to carrying a 50 kg load.

I was really amazed one time when the foreman came to help. I'm 6' 1" but that guy was quite a bit bit bigger than me. He'd carry a 100 kg load - two 25 kg sacks on each shoulder. :smile: He barely broke into a sweat...

There didn't seem to be any concept of Health & Safety there in those days (1974). :blush:
 
I'd like a job like that for abit, better than a shelve stacking job or something I'm likely to get. Anything that involves lifting I'm happy with really, I helped my dad with the front garden, had to shovel all the grass up, was hard getting it to come up lots of pushing and that, then had 3 tons of stones to lay down and constantly doing that made me ache for days!
 

ColinJ

Puzzle game procrastinator!
willhub said:
I'd like a job like that for abit, better than a shelve stacking job or something I'm likely to get. Anything that involves lifting I'm happy with really, I helped my dad with the front garden, had to shovel all the grass up, was hard getting it to come up lots of pushing and that, then had 3 tons of stones to lay down and constantly doing that made me ache for days!
I had two labouring jobs before I went to university. I spent about 5.5 years in total moving heavy loads about, loading and unloading lorries, cleaning up, running errands to the shops etc. etc. To be honest, I enjoyed that work far more than the stressful office jobs I had after graduating.

If I was upset about something in the factory, I'd just get a good sweat on - the work equivalent of going for a good bike ride to ease your stress.

In the office, I could be angry or upset about something but I'd somehow still have to try and concentrate on developing some complicated software module - it used to do my head in!
 

Dave5N

Über Member
jimboalee said:
How big is your garden?

Buy in pallet of concrete blocks ( and an empty pallet base ).

Also get some gloves and a pair of steely safety shoes.

1 m^3 of the 'Dense' variety weighs about 2 tonnes.

Every two days, move all the blocks from one pallet to the other, moving the pallet 100mm further apart with each transfer.


They don't rust and you can build a nice bar-b-que when you're Mr Universe.

Brilliant! :biggrin:
 

MacB

Lover of things that come in 3's
get a job labouring for a brickie or a roofer, I did both during Summers, roofing was the first one. I thought I was fit before I started but loading out a roof was hard work. Then you get the abuse all labourers get, almost anything to get a bite out of you:biggrin:
 

jimboalee

New Member
Location
Solihull
Nuns, no sense of humour.

Two nuns cycling down a cobbled street.
One says "I've never come this way before".
The other replies " Nooooor Haaaaaave I......."
 

jimboalee

New Member
Location
Solihull
ColinJ said:
I started my first job at 06:00, the day after I finished my A-levels (I must have been keen to work in those days :angry: ). It was a labouring job at a small factory in Coventry.

One of the tasks I had to do was to help unload sacks of plastic granules. The factory was so tight up against a railway viaduct that the fork lift truck didn't have access to the delivery lorries. A typical load was about 10 tonnes, made up of 400 25 kg sacks. I'd usually have one other worker helping me.

The lorry driver would stand on the back of his trailer and place (a) sack(s) on our shoulders. We'd then have to walk in through the rear factory gate, up the fire escape and about 25 metres inside the factory to the area where the sacks were stored. Unfortunately, that meant a heck of a lot of walking.

Since I'd be doing half the work, that amounted to carrying a fairly heavy load 5 km with about 750 m of vertical ascent, and another 5km without a load. It was tiring and took a long time. There was always pressure on us to get a move on.

When I first started, I'd take 1 sack at a time, draped across the back of my neck. Soon I got strong enough to carry a 25 kg bag on each shoulder. It was harder than carrying 1 bag at a time, but it was quicker and meant half the walking. After about a month, I tried carrying 75 kg at a time. I was strong enough to do it, but I tripped going up the fire escape and nearly put my back out so I decided to go back to carrying a 50 kg load.

I was really amazed one time when the foreman came to help. I'm 6' 1" but that guy was quite a bit bit bigger than me. He'd carry a 100 kg load - two 25 kg sacks on each shoulder. :ohmy: He barely broke into a sweat...

There didn't seem to be any concept of Health & Safety there in those days (1974). :biggrin:

There's nothing like a bit of hard graft.

The work trims and builds the musculature as well as using calories.

The shortage of snacks between restricted meals burns off the fat during the work and overnight.

Remember -

1kg lifted 1m = 1 Joule. 4.18 Joules = 1 kCal.
2 tonnes lifted 0.5 m = 1 tonne lifted 1 m.
1000 Joules or 240 Calories

50 kg ( two bags ) of plastic chippings lifted 750 m = 37500 Joules, or 8790 kCals !

No wonder you got slim. :birthday:
 

ColinJ

Puzzle game procrastinator!
jimboalee said:
There's nothing like a bit of hard graft.

The work trims and builds the musculature as well as using calories.

The shortage of snacks between restricted meals burns off the fat during the work and overnight.

Remember -

1kg lifted 1m = 1 Joule. 4.18 Joules = 1 kCal.
2 tonnes lifted 0.5 m = 1 tonne lifted 1 m.
1000 Joules or 240 Calories

50 kg ( two bags ) of plastic chippings lifted 750 m = 37500 Joules, or 8790 kCals !

No wonder you got slim. :birthday:
Hang on a second, there's something not right there... :birthday:

Okay, first thing - a Joule is equivalent to a force of 1 Newton acting over a distance of 1 metre. The force on 1 kg due to gravity is approximately 9.81 Newtons so you are out by a factor of about 9.81 there.

Secondly, 4.18 Joules are equivalent to about 1 calorie, not 1 kcal which is what food energy is usually measured in.

Thirdly, we haven't been taking into account my body mass which was about 80 kg at the time.

Fourthly (?), the body isn't 100% efficient. In fact it is pretty inefficient. I had a quick hunt around and saw figures in the range 15%-25% so let's call it 20%.

Let's do the calculations again.

Work done = (50 + 80) * 9.81 * 750 Joules = 956,475 J. Converting that to calories ~= 228,822 cals ~= 229 kcals.

But taking a 20% efficiency figure, I'd actually have burned about 5 times that or approximately 1,150 kcals. That sounds more like it! I was eating 3 good meals a day, but not going over the top. The extra kcals required were coming from my nightly trips to the pub! :birthday:
 

Bodhbh

Guru
ColinJ said:
But taking a 20% efficiency figure, I'd actually have burned about 5 times that or approximately 1,150 kcals. That sounds more like it! I was eating 3 good meals a day, but not going over the top. The extra kcals required were coming from my nightly trips to the pub! ;)
That's more like it, or anyone who walked up mountain with a backpack would be dying of starvation by the time they reached the top :rofl:.
 
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