How do I work out how far I cycled

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Location
Edinburgh
jimboalee said:
I have an 'acid test' for any software routing programme on the internet.

My test involves a 'recommended cycle route' between Solihull and Knowle. The cycle path uses a footbridge over the M42 avoiding junction 5 and Solihull by-pass.

Toporoute FAILS the test.

Try mapping the route in small stages and turning off the follow road function when you need to go off road.
 

scaryant

New Member
Transport for London recently introduced a mapping page, similar to the mapmyride website (ie uses the Google API). However it's only available to the Greater London area...
 

Goobs

Veteran
Location
East Yorkshire
I use gpsies.com
You can "draw" your route and it works out how far it is.

Usefull when I forget to use my phone application from rungps.net. Great program that logs your route and you can post it online. Plus if you get lost it has voice navigation builtin. e.g turn left 50 metres - you are 15 miles from home. ETA 1 hour etc...:biggrin:
 

jimboalee

New Member
Location
Solihull
I have yet to find an Online Cycle routefinder that takes cyclepaths to detour busy roads and junctions.

Personally, busy roads don't bother me, but they do bother some cyclists.

The problem with Online routefinders is they use mapping and software that was constructed for the Motorcar community. Some have 'avoid motorways' for learners and scaredy cats.

I use mapsource Topo GB.
It shows contours, so when I see the route is up some densely packed lines, I check other routes by putting in a viapoint along another road.
I have found from experience the shortest route turns out to be the best, however steep it gets. Going round may eventually be longer in time as well as distance.

For instance, the first section of Beacon RRC Audax from Wythall to Broadway Tower. The recommended route goes round and climbs a 10%.
The direct route is 3 km shorter but has a 14% for 200 m.
Going up the 14% ( walking ), I got to the control minutes before the group.

To these ends, I plan a route on Metroguide and check the hills on Topo GB. Then I know when to swig and nosh.

BTW, Bikehike doesn't know there is a cyclepath across the Severn Bridge. Its a bloody long way round from Bristol to Chepstow if you don't do some extra research and rely solely on an internet routefinding website.
 

lazyfatgit

Guest
Location
Lawrence, NSW
OS Maps and a wee wheel measurer.

I just love the maps, and they don't need batteries, and you can take them with you. They even sell waterproof ones.
 

Rhys_Po

New Member
A large ball of string. Attach it to your front gate when you set off and unravel it as you go along.

When you reach your destination, ring your Mrs / Neighbour and ask them to untie it. You can then pull it back at your destination, and with a ruler, cut off each 10cm section.

When you get to the end of the string, count the pieces and divide by 10 to get your distance in metres.
 

lazyfatgit

Guest
Location
Lawrence, NSW
Rhys_Po said:
A large ball of string. Attach it to your front gate when you set off and unravel it as you go along.

When you reach your destination, ring your Mrs / Neighbour and ask them to untie it. You can then pull it back at your destination, and with a ruler, cut off each 10cm section.

When you get to the end of the string, count the pieces and divide by 10 to get your distance in metres.

ROFL

wouldn't it be easier to pre mark the string at 1M intervals. Then you could use the string to find your way home.
 

jimboalee

New Member
Location
Solihull
jimboalee said:
BTW, Bikehike doesn't know there is a cyclepath across the Severn Bridge. Its a bloody long way round from Bristol to Chepstow if you don't do some extra research and rely solely on an internet routefinding website.

Same goes for the Forth road bridge.
There must be miles of designated cycle paths in the UK that are unknown to the online route finders.

IMHO, Online routefinders aren't worth using.

What about the Tyne Tunnel? Can bikes go through it? How much different is the bridge route ( dangerous wise ) than the tunnel?
 

belairman

New Member
Location
East Midlands
I like to use a good old fashioned map - I am one of those (sad?) people who can sit and look at an OS Map for hours - although it is a pain getting it out repeatedly in unfamiliar terrain.

But I also like to use bikehike to rough out a long route in advance, to give me an idea of how far it is - I tend to aim for a certain distance before setting off

Incidentally I find my cycle computer (cateye) reads more than the distance indicated by bikehike, does anyone else find online sites inaccurate for distance? I am pretty sure the cateye is set up correctly. I don't weave about that much either!
 

jimboalee

New Member
Location
Solihull
belairman said:
Incidentally I find my cycle computer (cateye) reads more than the distance indicated by bikehike, does anyone else find online sites inaccurate for distance? I am pretty sure the cateye is set up correctly. I don't weave about that much either!

Mapping sofware calculates the distances between points of latitude and longtitude as if the line was at sea level, ie NO account for evevation.
The route is built up from individual distances between road junctions which are painstakingly measured by teams of cartographers. Probably at NavTeq.

Your cateye measures the number of times your wheel goes round, so it measures up and down the slopes ( hypotenuse of the triangle ).
 

wafflycat

New Member
belairman said:
I like to use a good old fashioned map - I am one of those (sad?) people who can sit and look at an OS Map for hours - although it is a pain getting it out repeatedly in unfamiliar terrain.

But I also like to use bikehike to rough out a long route in advance, to give me an idea of how far it is - I tend to aim for a certain distance before setting off

Incidentally I find my cycle computer (cateye) reads more than the distance indicated by bikehike, does anyone else find online sites inaccurate for distance? I am pretty sure the cateye is set up correctly. I don't weave about that much either!

I'm a fan of OS maps. I tend to copy the bits I need and then have those in a map holder on the bike. no getting wet.. no map flapping about.. original map stays in good condition. If I am interested in the detailed figure of how many miles, then I refer to my bike computer.
 
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